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Potency Dissapointment
    #3507146 - 12/16/04 02:05 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

This is my first post here, but i have been viewing for a while. Any how, lets get down to business. This was my first grow, popcorn was my substrate, and my casing was 50/50 coca coir vermiculite. the strains were B+ and Mazatapec. 3 cakes yielded 358 wet grams the first flush. and for some reason they weren't as potent as i expected them to be. i ate 36 grams of them wet, and also another time over 50 grams wet and still wasn't really overwhelmed by them, where as i have had other trips and been totally blown away. any ideas why they may be weak?

these are the mazatapec

these are the B+


and these are more mazatapecs


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3507162 - 12/16/04 02:12 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

There might be a relation with the popcorn.

Some agricultural student here tells me that popcorn lacks certain vitamins so the mushroom cant get as potent.
Alos I often notice that people complaining potency grow in popcorn.
Just an indication

BTW: some times the magic friends just do not show up!


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3507169 - 12/16/04 02:16 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

thank you for your input. what do you recomend i use as a substrate. i was just reading a thread talking about using millet, how do i go about using that. would i boil it first than pressure cook it? im open to new ideas


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3507178 - 12/16/04 02:19 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

WBS! ;-)


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3507191 - 12/16/04 02:27 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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thank you for your input. what do you recomend i use as a substrate. i was just reading a thread talking about using millet, how do i go about using that. would i boil it first than pressure cook it? im open to new ideas




The shroomery has many TEK's on grains. One of the most common, being Wild Bird Seed (WBS) which has a lot of millet in it.


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke] * 1
    #3507196 - 12/16/04 02:29 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting to see, if you use same spores/strain, on different substrate if potency is better then.

I suggest RYE or WIld bird seed (which also has millet in it). 100% millet is rather expensive, at least here.


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: dmc_]
    #3507202 - 12/16/04 02:30 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

when i was making jars two months ago with my buddy he bought just pure millet, but we never ended up using it. we boiled the millet so it made it softer, and we figured that it was to dense for the mycelium to grow threw it so we never used it. should i use pure millet, or should it be a mix of wbs?


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3507248 - 12/16/04 02:45 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on your income. If you are a rich white man, buy lots of millet.


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3507254 - 12/16/04 02:47 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

wbs is a very good alternative and commonly used. I dont hear/read much bout 100% millet as a substrate.. But that does not prove a thing. I find it way too expensive it is almost twice the price of rye. And 4 times the price of wbs.

Wbs is a mix of grains with different kinds of nutes, you will be fine with it! :thumbup: There are nice teks bout WBS here, Doc34 And Sixtango have nice ones.


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: dmc_]
    #3508436 - 12/16/04 01:21 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Depends on your income. If you are a rich white man, buy lots of millet.




That is odd , I find all types of millet for aprox 69 cents a pound .
For 10 bucks I get a 9 lb bag of milo , 9 lbs of different types of millet(Japanese , German , White and Red proso) and 6 lbs of graots , all mixed up this makes months worth of half pint jars(depending on production) , shit I have problems with weavols eating the shit before I get to use it all . That is what a little over 24lbs of grain averages to what aprox 2.4 cents a lb :thumbup: , and mushies love the stuff . But I am lucky and have a feed and grain supply house nearby  :wink:

Damn I must be a rich man and did not know it  :wink:


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: tripndicular]
    #3508487 - 12/16/04 01:34 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for every ones help, ill let you know how it goes, oh yeah one more question. can some one provide me with a link to a teck on how to inoculate jars with mushrooms flesh. im not sure where on the mushroom the flesh needs to be cut from. please help me


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3508554 - 12/16/04 01:51 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

In the eko-store millet here is like 1,50? for half a kilo / a pund.

Ofcourse non-eko millet will be cheaper but I dont want poison and all that in my substrate.

Hmz wonder how eko my WBS is... :frown:


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3508576 - 12/16/04 02:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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thanks for every ones help, ill let you know how it goes, oh yeah one more question. can some one provide me with a link to a teck on how to inoculate jars with mushrooms flesh. im not sure where on the mushroom the flesh needs to be cut from. please help me




Are you reffering to cloning , liquid slurry mixture ?
I am not so sure how well it would work just dumping a piece of flesh in a jar, agar did a very informative post on these types of inoc , I'll try to find it and give you the link .

Cloning involves the use of agar .
The flesh is taken from the inside of a stem , requires being very clean .


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3508593 - 12/16/04 02:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Heres that post , it may help you understand the basics of differnt types of inocing .

Spores, G2G, Liquid Culture, Cloning & Colonization Time.

Shit I am bad at making links to shit , well look for this post and read it .
Sorry for failing you with a clickable link .


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3508938 - 12/16/04 03:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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i ate 36 grams of them wet, and also another time over 50 grams wet and still wasn't really overwhelmed by them, where as i have had other trips and been totally blown away. any ideas why they may be weak?




Did you take any other drugs within a week of taking the mushrooms? I learned that taking 2C-E gives a cross-tolerance with mushrooms after I ate 40 grams wet, and over 6 grams dry with minimal effects! (The mushrooms turned out to be fine)


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3511870 - 12/17/04 02:04 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yes i did consume other drugs that week, but, my friends that also consumed 36 grams aswell (that was the dose) had the same effect and conclusion, and they didnt consume lsd or mushrooms the prior week. they just werent that potent is what it comes down to


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Re: Potency Dissapointment [Re: GlobalSmoke]
    #3512572 - 12/17/04 09:25 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I just had a batch of mazatapec on BRF and Verm, cased with coca coir/verm 50/50 come out sadly not very potent. I also had some burma done the exact same way that just made me retarded. It kind of turned me off using mazatapec.


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