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OfflineEsola
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Round 3?
    #3503100 - 12/15/04 01:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well, its official. My second batch of jars are pooched. It didn't help that my roommate (he's moved out now) opened all the jars one night while stoned out of his mind.

I've ordered two more syringes (Argentina and Cambodian) and two casing kits. I know lots of people here say buying kits are a waste of money (I have more money than time right now - lucky me).

Obviously I'm doing something not quite right. I'd do more jars but I have no more solution. I'm planning on trying popcorn jars since they seem the easiest besides, I think wbs smells.

I'm also organizing my laundry room into more of a lab setup. The workbench will be covered with a plastic vinyl tablecloth so it can be wiped down with a bleach solution. The community where my house is is still being built so air borne contams are definitely an issue. With no snow yet its just very dusty all the time. Now I know there are lots of people saying "the laundry room isn't the best place to work on this" but I will be running a HEPA air purifier when I work as well as no laundry will be done either to keep lint dust to a minimum. This is in addition to all other measures taken to reduce contams (hair tied back, sterilized instruments and equipment, glove box etc.).

I'm going to give this one more try - wish me luck.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: Esola]
    #3503144 - 12/15/04 01:10 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Screw popcorn and wild bird shit just get rye

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Re: Round 3? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3503145 - 12/15/04 01:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

PS if one of my stoned roomates touched any of my shroom setup they would get shot


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Re: Round 3? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3503175 - 12/15/04 01:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Funny you mention this -- I had to basicly slide tackle my drunk/stoned bitch friend because he wanted to touch a couple weeks ago...since then a nice shiney lock has been placed on my closet door...some people's kids...


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Re: Round 3? [Re: brianjamez]
    #3503185 - 12/15/04 01:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Are you PCing or boiling?


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Re: Round 3? [Re: ricelicker]
    #3503237 - 12/15/04 01:31 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

PCing, although I have no pressure indicator on my PC only a rocker.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: Esola]
    #3503263 - 12/15/04 01:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Funny you mention this -- I had to basically unload a 15 round clip on my drunk/stoned bitch friend because he wanted to touch a couple weeks ago...since then a nice shinny lock has been placed on my cell door...some people's kids...


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Re: Round 3? [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3503303 - 12/15/04 01:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

kronnyQ said:
PS if one of my stoned roomates touched any of my shroom setup they would get shot




for real huh? lol...


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Re: Round 3? [Re: dmc_]
    #3504452 - 12/15/04 06:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

if your wbs smells you've gotten a contam somewhere along the line moisture content is a pain to figure with grain no matter if ya use rye or any other grain. I generally let mine soak for 24hrs drain till not a drip comes out and load into some jars.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: QMK]
    #3504571 - 12/15/04 06:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

When you soak it you are germinating contams..so yeah it (and any other grain) will stink after a 24 (esp 48 hour) soak.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3505958 - 12/15/04 09:54 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

No - I mean birdseed sinks! Right out of the bag it just stinks. Reminds me of hangover breath. Popcorn doesn't smell out of the bag. Its just a quirky thing with me - smells.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: AnonymousNewbie]
    #3506056 - 12/15/04 10:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

AnonymousNewbie said:
Funny you mention this -- I had to basically unload a 15 round clip on my drunk/stoned bitch friend because he wanted to touch a couple weeks ago...since then a nice shinny lock has been placed on my cell door...some people's kids...




This not like a shot'em dead offenses.Just hit the pinky toe.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3506786 - 12/16/04 12:42 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

whoa 48hrs I wouldn't go past 30. a 2 day time period might be enuf time to let more endospores form.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: QMK]
    #3510152 - 12/16/04 07:48 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

There is no problem soaking WBS for 48 hours..I've done many a pounds this way, everytime I do it I soak for 48 hours with no simmer. Rye I soak and simmer though. Then mix the two up with some verm and PC..g2g transfers open air (sterile environment) gets me about 1 out of 30-60 jars contamed. Innoculations 1 out of every 100 usually.

Endospores dont appear out of nowhere. 48 hours isnt even enough to show visable signs of mold.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Round 3? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3510184 - 12/16/04 07:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Im having lots of grain problems at the moment. I soak wbs for 24 hours, drain, load into jars, pc 90 minutes, then use the lazy bag tek with brf spawn, it starts to colonize, slows down, and then green. FUCK.


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Re: Round 3? [Re: InjectTruth]
    #3510257 - 12/16/04 08:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Lazy bag tek? Sounds like being lazy is your problem. I'm not aware of this tek but any teks with Lazy in the name usually have a margin of failure since they skip some steps involving sterility. They work for some but others have problems with them. Try a different way of going about things.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Round 3? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3510311 - 12/16/04 08:21 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

my problem with popcorn lately is it seems to turn grey..starts out nicely then goes greyish white..then some areas will be fuzzy grey ..i don't know if thats contam but my wbs jars didn't do that..so i pitched alot of jars lately..could be my karo syringe maybe i didn't clean it enough...keep on trying


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Re: Round 3? [Re: djred]
    #3510338 - 12/16/04 08:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It could spread differently on different substrates. If its cobweb it will go from showing signs of growth to fully colonized in a day or two and will be wispy and grey. If its white (even light white) and either ropey or fuzzy and takes a week or so to colonize then it sounds like myc.

The whole liquid culture could be infected too.. Did it smell like mushrooms when you dumped it?


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Round 3? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3510389 - 12/16/04 08:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yes and no...it smelled liked some other popcorn jars i pitched..they were completely grey..i tossed the jars allready didn't think twice..

i doubnt my karo is infected..i can see white growth ropey like sticks together..def healthy myc..im thinking i haven't been pc my jars long enough..i run it about 90 minutes plus.. i have some cracked corn but im scared.. i also think i need to improve my work area.. well im sure i will place my error in time..this last batch of jars i used alcohol to wipe of the tops of jars..lysol eveyrhting around.lysol jars alcohol clean needle ..inject then hold a alcohol cotton over the hole after i knock up..then tape it with medical tape.

plus i noticed to much moister is collecting between the jar and tvek that could be doing it also. im going out to get some polly fill and more wbs..


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Re: Round 3? [Re: djred]
    #3510409 - 12/16/04 08:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Cobweb in liquid will look more ropey then mycelium..mycelium looks more like clouds. If you have more of strandy looking long ropes that stay alot at the bottom you could have cobweb. Jars should only need to be PCed for an hour..thats all I do mine for.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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