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overlaid.. help!
    #3502596 - 12/15/04 08:18 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

my cake is bruising from being overlaid..
what can be done to correct the overlay??


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: rubber]
    #3502612 - 12/15/04 08:25 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

reading an FAQ has always helped me and my overlay


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: blink]
    #3502638 - 12/15/04 08:34 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

A cake can not become overlayed since it is overlayed by the fact it is a cake.


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: Anno]
    #3502689 - 12/15/04 09:23 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Anno said:
A cake can not become overlayed since it is overlayed by the fact it is a cake.




Does that mean the cake got laid?


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: blink]
    #3502754 - 12/15/04 09:55 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)




Does that mean the cake got laid?




Well it does have white stuff all over it :pimpslap:


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: dobinky]
    #3502765 - 12/15/04 10:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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dobinky said:



Does that mean the cake got laid?




Well it does have white stuff all over it :pimpslap:




:grin: It means it got laid, pregnant & is now overlaid :eek:

The bruising is from ROUGH SEX :grin:

All said in FUN :smile:


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: agar]
    #3506360 - 12/15/04 11:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

LOL.
well then what could this be?











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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: rubber]
    #3506378 - 12/15/04 11:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Just looks like an ugly cake to me.


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: jonas]
    #3506522 - 12/15/04 11:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Are those cakes right out of the jar? Are those pics before the first flush, I mean? If so, then I have a possible explanation.

First of all it looks to me like you had too much water in your substrate mix. This caused heavy droplets to form on the glass inside your jars. The mycellium, then pulled away from the glass and shrank deeper into the substrate (shrinking is common but in cases of too much water, it happens prematurely).

After the shrinkage the mycelium sprouted wisps of tendril-like growths out towards the glass to use like a root system in gathering water. This happens so that the mycelium doesn't become waterlogged, and at the same time can regulate the amount of water it needs to grow. Hence, those tendrilic growths.

This is all from personal observations I've made with my own cakes. I'm not saying that this is the neccesarilly the case in the above pics but it's similar to what I've seen in my own experience.


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: jonas]
    #3506526 - 12/15/04 11:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Probably dry. Dunk it.


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #3506574 - 12/15/04 11:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Are those cakes right out of the jar? Are those pics before the first flush, I mean? If so, then I have a possible explanation.

First of all it looks to me like you had too much water in your substrate mix. This caused heavy droplets to form on the glass inside your jars. The mycellium, then pulled away from the glass and shrank deeper into the substrate (shrinking is common but in cases of too much water, it happens prematurely).

After the shrinkage the mycelium sprouted wisps of tendril-like growths out towards the glass to use like a root system in gathering water. This happens so that the mycelium doesn't become waterlogged, and at the same time can regulate the amount of water it needs to grow. Hence, those tendrilic growths.

This is all from personal observations I've made with my own cakes. I'm not saying that this is the neccesarilly the case in the above pics but it's similar to what I've seen in my own experience.





wow very good inferences. i'd say thats pretty much what happened.

first of all, yea its before the first flush.. Too much water in substrate mix, positive. The mycelium took probably a week or more to completely colonise as compared to my other cake. Then what happened was that i thought there was too much CO2 buildup so i overturned the jar and the cake was pulled away from the glass. Left it a couple more days and these 'roots' start forming, not much though. Then i dunked and cold shocked the cake before moving it into the terrarium.
Its been probably two weeks and this is what i get. Should have started to develop hyphal knots by now but no...
Any solutions? Think my yeid's gonna be seriously affected =\

And yeah, its one hell of an UGLY cake lol.


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: rubber]
    #3506862 - 12/16/04 01:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

definitely dry as a bone dunk it for sure. what happened is your mycelium became a mat of dried dead cells it might need scratched to open it back up again :frown:


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: QMK]
    #3507029 - 12/16/04 01:37 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

but i just dunked about 2 weeks ago? dunk again?


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: rubber]
    #3507405 - 12/16/04 03:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

between every flush.

scratching is a big nono with cakes. only in cases of extreme overlay on a -casing- do you even CONSIDER scratching.

with that said, dunk it for sure. :smile:


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Re: overlaid.. help! [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3507449 - 12/16/04 04:37 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

okay so no scratching..
i had dunked just after the cakes were birthed and the cake has yet flushed for the first time.. sorry for repeating the question over and over again but dunk still??

its my first grow you see, and i'm pretty much very cautious of what i do, just like when i first started growing MJ. :smile:
hope you guys would tolerate my newbie behaviour...


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