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Mushrooms plus Rue Combo?
    #3500523 - 12/14/04 11:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Can anyone tell me what to expect if these are together? I've heard the mushies last twice as long and are twice as strong. Can someone 2nd this? Or any details would be great.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: largosnook]
    #3500582 - 12/14/04 11:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i can, i ate 4 grams of dry mushrooms and 3 grams of crushed to powder syrian rue, blew my mind, incredible trip. but it makes the trip seem more serious or intense, its crazy man i dont know how to explain it..friggin mushrooms
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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: largosnook]
    #3500596 - 12/14/04 11:24 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, only did it once a few years ago, but it does increase the effect of the shrooms 2X, but not the duration. And it's a slightly different feel. Good luck and be safe, know which foods to abstain from. PEACE!


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: ToolTroll]
    #3500617 - 12/14/04 11:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ive been lookin around my room all night for my rue, damn this 2grams just isnt gonna be as fun without it


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: ToolTroll]
    #3500628 - 12/14/04 11:28 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

This combo is definitely not for beginners. Very very strong experience, and just "off" somehow compared to straight shrooms. And in my friends experience, it did extend the duration by quite a bit.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3500976 - 12/15/04 12:27 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ive tripped on mushrooms only about 30 times (yet , i am still a youngin) but when i do dose its usually not any less than 4 grams. the last 15-220 of my trips have aaall been assisted with 3 grams of crushed syrian rue. the effects are very intesnse. infact my last trip was the more intesne trip ive ever had, i could barely see, i was having insane mind loops, i kept saying the same thing over and over. i was thinking about my family, what they would do if i was like this forever, i thought i was trapped in that state , i learned to deal with it. i calmed down, i was fine. at the time i was almost in incredible fear but there were thoughts in the back of my mind which kept me from letting the fear overcome me. my friend was in this same state and i realised i needed to help him, i actually picked him up since he couyldnt walk, sat him down in his room and we just relxaed, i somehow made setting happy again and we were back to smiling shortly after. i woke up in the morning surrounded in the warzone we made the house into that night. it was insane, i was scred at the time, ill admit that, but i never seemed to consider this a bad trip . syrian rue seems to add a more shamanistic or serious effect to the trip. and seems to make it almost double the dose. but even though these trips are so intense, everytime i get any amount of mushroms im always lookin for the syrian rue. i recommend it if you are familiar with higher doses , or if your going to start out real low again, to get the hang out it. later.trippin.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3502174 - 12/15/04 05:15 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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This combo is definitely not for beginners.  Very very strong experience, and just "off" somehow compared to straight shrooms.  And in my friends experience, it did extend the duration by quite a bit.



:thumbup: Take a day to read everything about MAOIs. Do your research before you try it!

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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: Annom]
    #3505868 - 12/15/04 09:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I've drank ayahuascs a few times and ate rue by itself, and I had heard about it and figured it wouold be pretty high. Ive read about how adding differant things in the brew, changes its effects.

P.S. Thats what I like about ayahuasca, its VERY intense!


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: largosnook]
    #3507458 - 12/16/04 04:49 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

And you actually know what a MAOI is? It's dangerous to just add different things in the brew.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: Annom]
    #3516261 - 12/18/04 05:18 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I ate about 4 g of romeros and about 4 g of rue and it was great. It was what I was looking for. Thanks for commenting on my question.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: largosnook]
    #3517660 - 12/18/04 06:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i quit mushrooms due to the combo. i believe that is what caused my horrible, horrible, trip. the rue adds a totally diffferent experience to mushrooms. the two times i tried it, both were mental trips beyond belief. stay safe and have fun.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: garbage]
    #3517670 - 12/18/04 06:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

some dude on erowid did mescaline and Rue combo at a dance party , he had fun!


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: liveby]
    #3518397 - 12/18/04 11:07 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Many have done rue and mescaline on Erowid, it seems to be a popular combination as it can make the mescaline 2 to 3 times as potent. No one wants to drink that much disgusting cactus juice when they can drink half the amount and some rue

It also ups the intensity for many, making it more spiritual and less euphoric. Look on Erowid, they have many reports of people combining it with mescaline and psilocybin


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: Ravus]
    #3519071 - 12/19/04 01:38 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Many have done rue and mescaline on Erowid, it seems to be a popular combination as it can make the mescaline 2 to 3 times as potent. No one wants to drink that much disgusting cactus juice when they can drink half the amount and some rue




Nor do they want to harvest that much of their special slow growing cacti :smile:

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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: garbage]
    #3540274 - 12/24/04 09:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

the stuff seriously fucks you up, i took 7g with about 2g rue seeds in tea and it blew my mind.

definately less euphoric and will likely put you in a more intense state

i would not recommend it unless you have previous level 5 experiences or at least 5g+ cubes

good to hear you had i good one, i dont really think the stuff is too fun


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: holio1]
    #3540949 - 12/25/04 01:12 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well shit man.. I wouldn't be able to handle 7 grams of cubes alone too well (just a guess, haven't gone over 5, but that was incredibly amazing).

Either way, the benefit of rue is making a certain amount of certain substances go a lot further. Generally its said to increase it 2-3x. (or in the case of oral dmt, makes it work period) Since you took 7 grams and rue (living on the edge man..) thats like 14-21 grams. A 5 gram shroom trip couldn't possibly prepare you for that...

do you have other experiences or just this one incredibly strong trip? might not be the best advice for those looking to take a gram with rue, but its crazy to hear someone with the balls (or misinformation?) to do something like that. There are some erowid reports of like 3 feet of pedro with rue. Man..


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: liveby]
    #3541395 - 12/25/04 04:03 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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some dude on erowid did mescaline and Rue combo at a dance party , he had fun!



This is a terrible idea, really. I'm glad the guy had fun, but IMHO, MAOI-enhanced tripping (like 'huasca)is absolutely incompatible with a dance party. Trips of this variety and intensity are the stuff of deep personal/spiritual discovery - you run all sorts of risks, and I think you belittle the sacredness of these natural allies, when you approach them this way. Don't get me wrong - I love to trip/party/drink now and again, but I just think you have to know your substances and respect their places and limitations in this world. Otherwise you fall right into the stereotype that the anti-drug nuts paint for us.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: rigwood]
    #3541424 - 12/25/04 04:18 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

smoother come up,
more visual trip...
can't say exactly 2x harder trip but yeah makes you feel like you ate a higher dose.
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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3542373 - 12/25/04 05:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Since you took 7 grams and rue (living on the edge man..) thats like 14-21 grams. A 5 gram shroom trip couldn't possibly prepare you for that...




I don't really think Rue's effects can be dumbed down to just "doubling the potency" although I must admit that with the addition of rue's effects to an experience, it becomes much more intense, but it's MUCH different than just "making more intense" because rue adds an entire element of it's own, like a teacher element sort of... but very hard to put in words, and very "ancient" feeling.

Damn... 7g's with rue... I'll have to try that sometime. That'd get me good.


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Re: Mushrooms plus Rue Combo? [Re: the free thinker]
    #3591218 - 01/07/05 12:11 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I have to comment on my most recent experience. 3 Days ago I ate 4g of my second flush of romeros and about 1-2g of crushed rue. The effects hit me fast and I'm telling you i t was an extremely intense ordeal. I'm not even coming close to joking about this shit! It was like there was nothing in my mind to hold on to. Im a little suprised I'm still sane. I absolutely 100% DO NOT recommend this combo to anyone new to either ingredient. For some reason, things were inline for me that night and my mind was busted wide open!
As it says under my aviator, "Dude, I got out!". I'll never forget it, thats for sure. I'm not saying I won't do it again, I'm just saying be careful. Don't think that your mind can handle anything with ease becuase you WILL be suprised if everything is just right.

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