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Offlinelonestar2004
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Why do we want to make money?
    #3498139 - 12/14/04 05:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

survival of the fittest, ensure the perpetuation of ones genes?
is that what capitalism is and why Marxism died?


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498150 - 12/14/04 05:48 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
survival of the fittest, ensure the perpetuation of ones genes?
is that what capitalism is and why Marxism died?




For alot of people, I think it might be simpler than that...


To buy or cultivate drugs. (Or to jus get fugged-up!)


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498284 - 12/14/04 06:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

money gives us power to get other people to do things we want them to which gives us better ability to acheive our goals whatever they may be. that would be the desire-satisfaction theory perspective on it.


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498302 - 12/14/04 06:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

This thread really should be in S&P, but I'll say that since we all have different wants and needs, businesses could not operate very efficiently by bartering with goods in exchange for labor, so the creation of money was necessary to create a common commodity which could be exchanged for any goods a person might need. Therefore, money is a representation of the goods a person wishes to possess or the services they wish to enlist.


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498312 - 12/14/04 06:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
survival of the fittest, ensure the perpetuation of ones genes?
is that what capitalism is and why Marxism died?



So we can more easily trade with other humans. If your follow up is 'why would we want to trade with other humans?', the answer is so that we can better enjoy life through increased satisfaction and/or decreased dissatisfaction.


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #3498341 - 12/14/04 06:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

"the answer is so that we can better enjoy life through increased satisfaction and/or decreased dissatisfaction."

That fact that you get satisfaction from some things and dissatisfaction from others is the root of your troubles. All if good. The illusion is that you think you don't like something.

Sorry a little off topic but had to get that Buddhist wisdom in there.


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498458 - 12/14/04 06:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

does anyone think that it is in our genes? (wanting to make money) i have family members who are not interested in making money. so we support them. is that what socialism comes down to?


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498473 - 12/14/04 06:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I want to make money so my wife has something to spend.


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498476 - 12/14/04 06:36 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

money == hapiness


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498495 - 12/14/04 06:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Since money is a man-made creation, I'd have to say no, it's not in our genes. It is in our nature to want to eat and protect ourselves from the elements, and these things do tend to cost money. As for socialism, it basically comes down to a belief that government should be the caretaker for its citizens and authority over business matters.


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: afoaf]
    #3498509 - 12/14/04 06:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

No, no, no

money => hookers => happiness


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3498522 - 12/14/04 06:42 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i have family members who are not interested in making money. so we support them.

something tells me that if you stopped, they would gain an interest rather quickly, no?


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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: ]
    #3498582 - 12/14/04 06:51 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The shrinks are working on it.

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When scientists taught monkeys the value of money, and gave them a Chimp-O-Mat in which to spend it, significant changes took place in their behavior toward one another, and new light was shed on the capacity of lower animals for symbolic thought.
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Re: Why do we want to make money? [Re: Autonomous]
    #3498685 - 12/14/04 07:07 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

that's valid


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