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OfflineCrabbyAss
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Cheap Nice Glovebox
    #3497774 - 12/14/04 04:36 PM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

Cheap glovebox link.. Used to open anthrax infested mail. Cheap and professional..

like $70 shipped in the US.. Sounds like it might be helpful to some
http://www.pdsecurityproducts.com/


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #3497792 - 12/14/04 04:41 PM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

a rubbermaid tub and latex golves run about $10


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3497838 - 12/14/04 04:51 PM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

I dunno..you gotta get the nice gloves for a glovebox..I'd say closer to 15 :smile:


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3497843 - 12/14/04 04:52 PM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

I have some $80 shoulder length gloves... and a rubbermaid tub.


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3497866 - 12/14/04 04:56 PM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

no doubt a rubbermaid will work. But if one desired a professional glovebox, there looking at coughing up some serious bills. $59 seems pretty damn good some a piee like that


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #3497902 - 12/14/04 05:06 PM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

Its hardly professional in my opinion...its just a small plastic box..if one is looking at a glovebox costing serious bills its more elaborate then that.

Wow I've never seen an 80 dollar pair of rubber gloves....aok.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3497951 - 12/14/04 05:17 PM (13 years, 14 hours ago)

lol, ziplock bags-Gallon size, 5-6$ for 50...just wash you hands....or get latex gloves - 50-10.00 pr cheaper...cheapest i've seen is 5$...60$ for a glove box? lol, ill pass but thanks 4 the link


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3499099 - 12/14/04 08:03 PM (13 years, 12 hours ago)

That's an incredibly small glovebox.


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: SCIOpenEyedDream]
    #3499164 - 12/14/04 08:14 PM (13 years, 11 hours ago)

kinda cramped, but not too small. Dimensions are 19" x 15" x 8"

I would assume g2g with 4 jars at a time would fit, syringe making, agar transfers, etc.

Hell, if anyone can find another air-tight glovebox for under $100, id be astonished


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #3499249 - 12/14/04 08:28 PM (13 years, 11 hours ago)

You don't need one air tight. you just need a positive pressure glovebox. I have 0% contams with my $18 one so far (4 months strong).  :rolleyes:


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: SCIOpenEyedDream]
    #3499479 - 12/14/04 08:58 PM (13 years, 11 hours ago)

Exactly..and you can easily get use gloves with some clamps to attach them to a rubbermaid the same way which will be airtight if you seal it well if you cant make a positive pressure one.

Sorry man, really a ghetto glovebox is just as good as that expensive little thing. And it is damn little..even if you fit 4 quarts in can you fit your hands in too? And work? From experience of doing many grain to grain transfers at once..thats enough for 2 jars..one your transfering from and the one your transfering too. Any more jars (MAYBE one) and your looking at cramped work space. If your doing grain to grain transfers with even less then 3 jars, you need to look into liqud cultures to save yourself time and trouble. Though it could work for agar I guess.

We dont mean to shit on your idea or anything..its just practically..it serves little use in our hobby. For the price, it will serve no use for me or anyone who isn't over paranoid with a dilusion that that little thing will work any better (if even as good) as one I could make for 15 bucks.

Of course I do all my agar work, syringe making and grain to grain transfers in open (sterile) air converting my bathroom into a cleanroom to work with a 30 dollar HEPA and a few dollars of cleaning supplies and I can do 60 grain to grain transfers, make a dozen casings, do some agar work and make a liquid culture all at the same time without moving shit in and out of a glovebox.

Sorry man, dont see the point. Dont take it personal.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: SCIOpenEyedDream]
    #3499635 - 12/14/04 09:25 PM (13 years, 10 hours ago)

Quote:

SCIOpenEyedDream said:
You don't need one air tight. you just need a positive pressure glovebox. I have 0% contams with my $18 one so far (4 months strong).  :rolleyes:




18 bucks??  Sounds like a real sterile box. What kind of filter are you using?

You guys are totally right..  A cut-up rubbermaid with computer fans rigged up is obviously the better choice.


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #3499804 - 12/14/04 09:44 PM (13 years, 10 hours ago)

That's an awesome small glovebox!! Thanks for the link. For someone wanting to inoculate a few pf cakes with syringes, it's perfect. In fact, I may order one to carry on field trips collecting wild specimens.


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #3500169 - 12/14/04 10:24 PM (13 years, 9 hours ago)

That's not a glovebox.....

Model 532
Microprocessor Controlled Environmental Chamber
(Precision Humidity & Temperature Controlled Environment)

Model 532 Microprocessor Controlled Environmental ChamberDescription-The Model 532 is a completely integrated, microprocessor controlled environment that controls humidity from <10 to >95%R.H. with an accuracy of ?2% at 72?F (22?C) and temperature from 32 to 122?F (0-50?C) with an accuracy of ?1?C.

The chamber includes Microprocessor Humidity & Temperature Controls, Software Package, Desiccant/Pump Dehumidification System, Ultrasonic Humidification System, CO2 Cooling System, 500 Watt Heater Assembly, Circulating Fans with variable speed adjust, Thermal Protection Switch, Accordion Sleeves with Replaceable Gloves, Fluorescent Lighting, GFIC AC Outlet, 1.5? dia. Cable Pass-Through, Sample (14? x 4?) & Equipment (16? x 16?) Doors. External Dimensions are 54? W x 25.5? D x 22? H.



Optional operating systems allow the user to build a system to meet specific requirements.

    * Precision operating systems
    * PID control Humidity/Temperature ramping functions
    * Temperature compensated humidity sensor
    * Windows based software
    * Sample and equipment doors
    * Circulating fans
    * Fluorescent lighting
    * Thermal protection switch

http://www.esdproducts.biz/CleanroomProd...alchambers.html
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THAT's a Glovebox!

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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: Mycomancer]
    #3501625 - 12/15/04 02:22 AM (13 years, 5 hours ago)

also check this:

http://www.coylab.com/polyme_glove_box_G1.html

heat, humidity and pressure controllers can be bought separately


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Re: Cheap Nice Glovebox [Re: Mycomancer]
    #3501723 - 12/15/04 02:49 AM (13 years, 5 hours ago)

Great, now my $20 bags have to sell for $200!

All that, and you will still get contamination...

Does it wipe your but too? Or would that overload the CPU with contamination?

Um, You do the math...

Guarenteed contamination without this... 85%
Guarneteed contamination with this... 15%

Cost of unit(jar) without cleanroom ($1.50)
Cost of unit(jar) with cleanroom ~($30.00) (Original cost, electricity, repairs, cleaning, time)

In the end, if you just threw away your bad jars, you would save more. Better yet, recycle the bad jars into compost, out in the woods. Start a whole new crop with natures help.

Besides, cleanrooms don't get rid of the contamination that would survive a pressure cooker. (You would need 310F heat, 3000+ PPM ozone, and 6000+ LUX UVA-UVB, and exposure to X-Ray Lab strength x-rays.) The protective shell of the ones that usually survive is almost inpenetrable! Not to mention, those above conditions can NOT be tolerated by any one device at this time. And no, Ionic Breeze only makes about 300PPM enough ozone to get you sick, HEPA makes only 50 PPM, UV lights make about 10PPM and have about 300-1500 LUX UVA, 10-250 LUX UVB. Microwaves have almost no X-Rays, only enough to heat food, which is closer to the IR range.

If you were ever curious as to why microwaves can't sterilize your stuff...

Microwaves are tuned to a specific frequency that mostly affects water. That is how it apears to heat from the inside... It boils the H2O, any liquid inside solids...

The contaminations that survive are the same ones that survive pressure cooking... thos that have been preserved by (Super-Dehydration), EG, have ZERO moisture, thier shell is as protective as ceramic tiles used on the space shuttle, and cockroach shells. Only time and water submerging will reactivate these contamination spores.

On the brighter side, if microwaved long enough, you will kill every living water life form, and about half the vitamins in your mix, and you will also accelerate the chemical reactions of the minerals... Oxidized minerals. (Which is why microwaved food is less healty for you.)


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