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OfflineMycoJunkie
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Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough??
    #3497280 - 12/14/04 02:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)


I'm sure I could occasionally come off as lazy to some people.
I've heard ppl talk about nuking their 50/50 in the microwave for 5 minutes on high, and I was wondering if they ever run into any contams this way. Is 5-7 minutes in the microwave good enough?


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3497351 - 12/14/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It's "your", not "ur".

Yeah 7 minutes is fine.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3498421 - 12/14/04 06:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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HolyDiver said:
It's "your", not "ur".





GEE! Thanks for that needed bit of information, truley, I would not have known that Ur = your or you're without you! (Sarcasm.) You're obviously not incredibly bright.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3498490 - 12/14/04 06:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I dont agree, I think he is bright how else can he know that u mean your with ur?:P


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3498537 - 12/14/04 06:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont agree, I think he is bright how else can he know that u mean your with ur?:P




Well, I certainly didn't mean You're, because that would be out of context. Any 5 year old kid who is hooked on phonics would be able to acertain exactly what I meant by the subject of my post.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3498546 - 12/14/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

LOL dont u c what I mean with my post ? :lol: :wink:


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3498553 - 12/14/04 06:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

7 minutes will work, but so will 0 minutes. i've had success w/ both.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: TODAY]
    #3498608 - 12/14/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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7 minutes will work, but so will 0 minutes. i've had success w/ both.




I see. So you've never had contams when you just pull out some moss and verm and mix it together to case? No sterilization at all?


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3498922 - 12/14/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i've only used verm as a casing layer, but yes, that's right. i've had contams after 3 flushes but that's normal i hear.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: TODAY]
    #3502842 - 12/15/04 10:35 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

having well colonized substrate (i.e. 100%) doesn't require sterile technique. The key is to not have any uncolonzied sections in the tray when you case. Just cut 'em out, or wait a few more days. Sometimes with rye grain I get the clumpy gunk on the bottom of my jars that never colonizes. I just pick that stuff out... Although I still nuke my vermiculite just for peace of mind. Moss probably carries more contams with it than straight vermiculite, but after trying straight verm and 50/50 side by side and not noticing a difference, I only mess with verm now anyway. A lot easier...


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: gsmith]
    #3504151 - 12/15/04 05:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If you didnt notice the difference then you didnt do the 50/50 right. Straight verm is the pits and I would love to see any pics of straight verm casings that contest verm/coir casings let alone 50/50+.

It is easier, I'll give you that..


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3505609 - 12/15/04 08:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well... it's not easier really. You gotta pay more attention to vermiculite because it doesn't tell you when it's thirsty. It's just more convenient for me. I can't find all this shit at one place, and I don't like ordering this stuff online. If I can avoid spending a whole weekend driving around to a bunch of different stores, I will. The fact that I couldn't notice a difference wasn't going to make any of that shit worth it.

I doubt I did the mix wrong (unless that pH meter I bought when I was growing dope broke). I just think I didn't fall into some of the common pitfalls that people fall into when they use straight vermiculite. It's also possible that because I was used to growing straight verm that I was biased towards it in terms of care and maintenance. Like trying to cook a casserole with a recipe for a pot pie. I guess it's all about what you're used to. I've never tried coco coir, and I've actually been planning on trying this. It's part of what inspired me to stop lurking. Now I just need to find a good place to purchase it nearby first.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: gsmith]
    #3510104 - 12/16/04 07:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well if you can show me some straight verm casings that look like this:




Untill I see some straight verm casings that look like that...I'm not convinced that it is a user error, but just that verm is a poor substitution for a real casing layer. I certainly could not produce anything worth while from straight verm. Perhaps I just dont know how to take care of it but untill someone shows me straight verm casings like I get, I'll keep blaming the verm.


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Re: Nuking ur 50/50+ mix in the Microwave for 7 mins = Enough?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3512674 - 12/17/04 10:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I could if I had pictures. There's just something about insurmountable evidence that scares me. Anyway... It's all about moisture. That's it. So yeah, 50/50 is easier to maintain proper moisture content but that doesn't defacto make straight verm impossible to manage. The biggest differences I've noticed in size of flushes is with substrate materials and substrate depth, not casing.

Tell you what... when this next batch flushes I'll see if I can quell my paranoia enough to snap a pic.


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