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 deathcapcubensis
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HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? 
#3497251 - 12/14/04 12:50 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive noticed everytime I go picking here in the bay area, people ask me what Im doing, or did I lose something, I ALWAYS respond with, "I lost my keys, but thank you for your concern", its funny how when the nosey assholes hear that its your keys you lost, they just walk! Anyway Ive city workers ask me as well, but when they ask, its in a diffeent tone, I just sense that they have an idea, paranoid? Maybe. But I watched a city worker, go through a whole park with some sort of pesticide, I also saw another city worker driving around in what looked like a golf cart and looking under bushes, and combing grass. Now also when I was in berkeley yesterday, the spot where I found ringers, was so out in the open that people wjhere bumping into me when I was picking! After I found those I combed the area and found that a lot of the more secluded spots had little holes(appearance of something uprooted) but upon closer look, I see the webing of mycelium? Authorities, good sumeritan, or asshloe hunters, what do you guys think?
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 Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
#3497315 - 12/14/04 01:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think authorities know that much. I mean, hell, it's not uncommon for police to go to known legal marijuana growers and ask if they can show the rookies some of the plants and product... So I don't think they're all that up on shrooms. In fact, I'm pretty sure if you have some obviously non-actives in a bag, the police will take you in for posession while they analyze the substance... They're just not clued on it.
As far as stuff being all out in the open in Berkeley, well, there's some poppies right off of Telegraph... There's quite a collection of entheogens people have planted all over Berkeley :P
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: delta9]
#3497475 - 12/14/04 01:36 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is on my mind alot. More than how much do they really know,
how much will they actually let you get away with?
Say, if the 5-0 tracked me down because I was actually hauling quite a bit, and it is obvious that I am distributing.
Or, I have a couple of say, plants, or myc.,
it is also obvious that I am using this for my own consumption and pose no threat.
The latter scenario really gets me, to think how many people I have known and do know that have died, are dying (very slowly), and kill others because of alcohol.
(no thank you, I don't drink, stuf'll kill ya don't ya know)
Good question 
Edit: I think they know everything *ahem*
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Edited by LouiseLouise (12/14/04 01:40 PM)
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: LouiseLouise]
#3497770 - 12/14/04 02:36 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends where you are hunting. If you are in GGP ive heard to be careful.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: runnerup]
#3497894 - 12/14/04 03:03 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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delta when did u see the poppies? When we were in Berkley on 420?
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: sui]
#3498172 - 12/14/04 03:51 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes please clarify!
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deathcapcubensis
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: runnerup]
#3498214 - 12/14/04 03:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive heard that too...the poppies
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
#3498223 - 12/14/04 03:59 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would like to know about this, would be fun to take pictures of the blooms
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delta9
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: sui]
#3499006 - 12/14/04 05:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
suimush said:
delta when did u see the poppies? When we were in Berkley on 420?
The spots they are supposedly in have been pointed out to me, but I have never actually investigated and made sure... But deathcap's "heard" about it... Maybe it's just a bit ass rumor going around the bay for years and deals with some similar plant that happens to be there. But Lisa told me it was true, and I don't think she'd lie about that (maybe she was off one and just thinks it's true, though ^_^).
edit:
I think Big Willy actually might have told me he went and picked from some poppies in Berkeley, so maybe ask him if he knows anything. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful on the subject :/
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Edited by delta9 (12/14/04 05:51 PM)
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: delta9]
#3499442 - 12/14/04 06:52 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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depending on the area and the department specialties contained in the force a certain group of officers could know an awful lot. It just depends on the area and the interest the head of the department has in getting specific drugs and such off the streets.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: pixidust303]
#3499561 - 12/14/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well the question pertains to any signs or symptoms of a crackdown, in case anyone has witnessed it happen before. Ripped up patches? City workers doing, fishy thing where patches might grow, etc.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
#3502194 - 12/15/04 03:26 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I live in a smaller city, Not more than 45 miles South of the Canadian border, and no farter than 20 miles east of the Pacific Ocean. In the old part of this town, there are a Massive amount of Poppies growing in the open. (People's yards, and even some commercial-business gardens.) sorry for the off topic post. (topic = mushrooms.)
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: delta9]
#3502211 - 12/15/04 03:32 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
delta9 said:
Quote:
suimush said:
delta when did u see the poppies? When we were in Berkley on 420?
The spots they are supposedly in have been pointed out to me, but I have never actually investigated and made sure... But deathcap's "heard" about it... Maybe it's just a bit ass rumor going around the bay for years and deals with some similar plant that happens to be there. But Lisa told me it was true, and I don't think she'd lie about that (maybe she was off one and just thinks it's true, though ^_^).
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I think Big Willy actually might have told me he went and picked from some poppies in Berkeley, so maybe ask him if he knows anything. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful on the subject :/
Ill talk to Big Willy and Lisa tommarrow when im in the B.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: delta9]
#3503565 - 12/15/04 12:44 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are poppies all over Seattle. papaver somniferam.
You can buy the seeds at any Bar and Restaurant Supply from your local telephone book in most major U.S. cities.
Theya re about $8.00 or so for a two pound tin of poppy seeds. They call them Dutch Blue and they are used on Kaiser Rolls and cakes and breads.
Here is a picture of some taken when I got off the bus in the University District of Seattle, Washing. I have seen these poppies int his old woman's yard every fall for abiout 8 years now. Always around September-October when I return from SE Asia.
Here is a picture of some.
And here is one from Northern Thailand north of Fang. HEre is a Lisu Girl tending her village crops.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: mjshroomer]
#3503621 - 12/15/04 12:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder if the ones you get from the restaurant and bar supply store the kind that have been reduced of there opium content
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: runnerup]
#3504669 - 12/15/04 04:28 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is no opium content in the seeds.
And no. The seeds are not treated to get them rid of wanything.
While marijuana seeds are illegal by law. Poppy seeds are not. And never have been. In fact, they are more than a billion dollars a year industry for poppy seeds.
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I and several friends made thousands of dollars int he 1970s and 1980s selling them through High Times maazine for a gram of seeds for Five dollars and a $1.50 S & H.
Have a shroomy day.
THis is just another hypocracy in the war on drugs. They will burn marijuana plants and hashish. And they will burn opium poppys and opiuates but not the seeds which they allow to be sold o all over the world. In the baltics iand much of eastern Europe there are still large poppy festivals every season.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: mjshroomer]
#3509370 - 12/16/04 03:24 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im not talking about the seeds themselves but the pods that they produce.
Have poppy seeds not been treated to produce less opium in the pods when you grow them?
can i go to the grocery store buy a big bag of poppy seeds and plant them and not have to worry about a reduction in there opium content?
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: runnerup]
#3509563 - 12/16/04 04:04 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you read my post you would see the words,
"Bar and Restaurant Supply.
Look in your big city phone book under those words.
That is if you live in a big city. If not, then in Great Britain they actually sell the seeds in garden supplies shops.
And no they are not treated fopr anything.
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: mjshroomer]
#3509828 - 12/16/04 04:50 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never heard of any annual poppy festivals in the Baltics
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Re: HOw much do the authorities REALLY know? [Re: ivi]
#3510339 - 12/16/04 06:27 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is either the baltics or some countries in eastern Europe. Mark Merlkin, co-author with me on numerous shroom papers is one of the leading experts in thehistory of opium poppuies having written the difinitive book for the government and also a recent article in Economic Botany.
These are annual poppy harvest festivals. However, I did refer to them as opium poppy festivals.
Give me a day or so and I will [post some urls for your to further your studies on the medicinal histories of this plant and its seed.
mj
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