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Offlinezahudulallah
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death row
    #3496790 - 12/14/04 11:22 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone know why it takes so long for an execution to be carried out? I guess in particular California and else where.

I just saw on the news that there is around 600 inmates on death row right now in California waiting to be executed. Since the death penalty was reinstated in 1978, only a total of 10 people have been executed.

In illinois, more prisoners on death row are given stays and death row removals than prisoners actually being executed apparently.

It seems in places like California the wait on death is so long its not even funny. It's 2004 and Richard Ramirez hasn't even been forced to meet his maker yet.

But for example Timothy McVeigh was executed very quickly.

anyone know how exactly the death row systems work in the United States?


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InvisibleDNKYD
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Re: death row [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3496901 - 12/14/04 11:43 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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anyone know how exactly the death row systems work




Like most everything else in the States, it simply does not work. I support the death penalty. I can't agree with people who have the position that "an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind." That's true, but if you have someone who is obviously unfit for society (serial killers, domestic terrorists, etc.) you need to get rid of them. I sure as hell do not want to pay my taxes so Johnny Massmurderer can have 3 meals a day in some prison cell. I want his ass dead. It doesn't take very much money, or even time, to just hook a needle up and pump some cyanide into their criminal ass.

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Re: death row [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3496945 - 12/14/04 11:56 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Why, is there someone that you want dead? As the saying goes, if you want something done right you should do it yourself.


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Re: death row [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3496967 - 12/14/04 12:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Some states are faster than others.

McVeigh was incarcerated and executed by the federal government(not a state government).

Those people in California are incarcerated by the state of California. California is notoriously slow when it comes to executing people. People sit for years while they go through tons of appeals. Texas is notoriously fast when it comes to prisoner execution. Hundreds and hundreds have been executed in Texas in the past several decades.

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OfflineTao
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Re: death row [Re: DNKYD]
    #3497068 - 12/14/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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It doesn't take very much money





but the necessary appeals process (since this is an irreversible punishment) is. more expensive in fact than life imprisonment so the statistics say.


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OfflinePhred
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Re: death row [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3498411 - 12/14/04 04:29 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

zahudulallah writes:

Anyone know why it takes so long for an execution to be carried out?

Probably because it is impossible to reverse an execution. I don't think I'd enjoy losing ten or so years of my life sitting in prison for something I didn't do, but it beats being killed for something I didn't do.

While some states have carried the appeal-after-appeal-after-appeal procedure to absurd lengths, it makes sense that someone given the ultimate penalty should be given every reasonable opportunity to appeal their conviction. This involves expense, true, but it is a necessary expense.

Juries are not always reasonable (see the OJ Simpson verdict as just one example), judges make unreasonable rulings during the course of some trials, new evidence is sometimes unearthed, etc.


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Offlinelonestar2004
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Re: death row [Re: Phred]
    #3498499 - 12/14/04 04:39 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

where was the Peterson judge and jury for the OJ trail?

i have given up on the death penalty in this country. just make sure they get life.


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