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Offlinekell
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bleach solution in cool mist
    #3496620 - 12/14/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I heard somebody say something about running a cool mist with bleach
and I jus' wanted to know if it was cool to do this non stop in a
8'x8' room and if the benefits are that great.


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: kell]
    #3496638 - 12/14/04 12:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think you misread , bleach can and will cause mutations , and long term exposure like that could cause lung problems .

Maybe it was a peroxide dillution you read .


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: tripndicular]
    #3496687 - 12/14/04 01:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

okay well it proly was but even with h2o2 is that cool to run all the time and if it is are the benefits that great??? thank you for your help.


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: kell]
    #3496773 - 12/14/04 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hhahaa why don't you mix some ammonia in there too so your cool mist spits out chlorine gas too!!!


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: kell]
    #3496786 - 12/14/04 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

always run with some peroxide in there....


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: kell]
    #3496796 - 12/14/04 01:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You really need to make sure of what the fuck your doing. Bleach in a device that puts the chemicals you put into it in the air and your just like, "yeah sure, that sounds cool"?

H202 and iodine are SAFE chemicals to put in the air and keep water in your humidifier clean. It is fine to run them all the time in proper amounts. If you use tap water and no hydrogen peroxide or iodine you will most likly end up with contaminations, so yes the benefits in my opinion are that great.

Be careful what your doing with chemicals and think about things before doing them, don't just assume you remember what chemical to use and that the person you heard it from knows what the hell they're talking about! Stay safe!


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: dobinky]
    #3496799 - 12/14/04 01:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i second that dobinky. oh, and don't forget to check your filter regularly. :smile:


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3496955 - 12/14/04 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah i think that person was talking about doing that to the room you are working in like a couple days before you start doin' in there but oh well h202 it is


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: kell]
    #3497113 - 12/14/04 02:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Chlorine is just nasty. Even if it's a couple days before you go in there to work, I still wouldn't recommend it. Aerosolized bleach is pretty irritating to the sinuses and lungs and it could probably linger for a while. I've used a diluted bleach solution in a spray bottle when cleaning surfaces before. I still wouldn't even do that without a mask.

If you want to biologically clean a room, you can't kill two birds with one stone. Filling the air with bleach is not as effective at cleaning the air as using a HEPA or ULPA filter is. Nor is it effective at cleaning surfaces. Air and Surface cleaning need to be performed seperately. First, try and remove all of the unnecessary clutter from the room. It's just more surface area for microbials to rest on. Second (and some of you may disagree), after it's uncluttered, dust all surfaces agressively and agitate the hell out of the air. This is when you turn on the filter. After it runs for a few days, then you can go in and use the bleach spray, or lysol or whatever. Remember, you yourself are the largest carrier of contamination. No matter how well you clean that room, your skin will still shed something like 500,000 particles an hour at rest.

It's one of those uphill battle things... sysyphian tasks and what not. Even without air showers, laminar flow hoods and full blown clean rooms it's still possible to decontam a room enough for our purposes. But please, don't kill yourself with the bleach.


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: gsmith]
    #3497416 - 12/14/04 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dont let my HEPA run for days prior to working in my "cleanroom", just a few hours is plenty. It's a small room and I'll sometimes use 2 HEPA's but 1 on high is good.

I dont disagree with the order of cleaning perscribed by smith either. And take a shower before going in and put on only clean clothes (fresh out the dryer is good) with gloves and a paint mask.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: bleach solution in cool mist [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3497512 - 12/14/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Speaking of clean clothes, being a total nerd, I like rockin' the lab coveralls from American Science & Surplus. i love this place, wish I was near a store.

Then there's always ULine. Good for hairnets. This place also has nice containers... check it out.


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