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B+ vs GT vs ???
    #3494300 - 12/13/04 10:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

When I was even noobier than I am now, I asked the usual question. "What strain should I start with?" Some people said "Cubes are cubes." One person said "B+", and I latched onto that. Why change if cubes are cubes, right?

Well now I've read in another thread that B+ have hollow stipes, (stems), and GT are solid. Solid seems better to me. Is there any down side to switching to GT? I'm thinking about things like colonization time, affinity to BRF, overall fruit weight and quality, and that sort of thing. Your thoughts will be much appreciated, and thanks again Shroomery  :thumbup:


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: ticktock]
    #3494355 - 12/13/04 11:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

GTs are a great strain. You'll be fine all around.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: jonas]
    #3494457 - 12/13/04 11:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

GT's are a wicked strain super fast colonizers and decent potency and yeilds.. check these tiny 1/4 pint GT cakes.. the verm compacted so mad took like 2 months to colonize unincubated.. but it was worth it muahah here are my recent GT's there soooooo beautiful!

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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: Cenebite]
    #3494539 - 12/13/04 11:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Hi Cenebite,

Really pretty pics. Pretty cool that the cap left the veil behind and kept rising without getting old and inverted. Still, 2 months to colonization? Did you mean "bad" when you typed "mad"? I'm assuming that things were slowed down due to overly compacted substrate, right?

And shout out to Jonas. You guys are moving me in the direction of Golden Teacher. Any other considerations?


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: Cenebite]
    #3494546 - 12/13/04 11:36 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

cubes are cubes... but certain strains seem to have certain traits like a fast colonizing time and such.

i'm not going to reccomend B+ to anyone after my encounter with it. ick.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: ticktock]
    #3494559 - 12/13/04 11:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I meant mad as in compacted a lot, ya that top pic was the ones that took 2 months to colonize, the bottom GT pic took 14 days exactly... very very fast.. then 7 days to pin after I put it in the fruiting chamber


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: Cenebite]
    #3494765 - 12/14/04 12:18 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I just knocked with B + after using GT, TC, and EQ and all my B+ were moldy in three days .... kinda strange, Im not blaming this on the strain though. but so far "Ick" to B+ for me also.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: oddiseus]
    #3494862 - 12/14/04 12:33 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i got great first flush fruits but the second and third were the pits. :frown:

also a slow colonizer and more susceptable to contams than the GT or PESA i've used.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3494895 - 12/14/04 12:40 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

try them all


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: onetime]
    #3494941 - 12/14/04 12:51 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'd think the substrate and conditions would matter more than the strian...i've seen rather big creeps derive from dung substrates, strains may vary a bit, but i think what ur looking for is substrates...  :thumbup: gl


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3496345 - 12/14/04 10:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Hi Ignostic,

You can't be saying that a different substrate may cause B+ to fruit with solid stipes, right?

Thanks to all for the advice. I'm going to try the teacher next.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: ticktock]
    #3497057 - 12/14/04 02:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

A better substrate will give you thicker shrooms but strains do play a huge part.

GT's:





Z's were solid as well and my favorite..GT's were ho-hum on the flushes IME (everyones different and I had a weird isolate):





I dont have many recent pics of my grow uploaded because I'm to lazy to sort through the hundreds of pics to organize them (besides my camera being a pain in the ass) or find ones I want so I don't upload much anymore unless I really need to illustrate a point. I have grown 10 different cubes though, and I've grown all of them on rye. I've tried a few strains on some straw as well but my substrates and conditions havnt varied between strains since they're often all growing in the same closet next to eachother and the rye made in the same batch. While substrate and conditions do play a HUGE part..the strain does as well.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3497294 - 12/14/04 02:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

No, they won't grow stripes....if ur being sarcasitc then dont expect anymore help, and if u are being serious then you jus confused the hell of out me, gl


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3497391 - 12/14/04 03:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

that's wierd. it seems like everyone in this thread has been saying that hollow stems are strain related, but in this other thread at http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3489947/ the general consensus seems to be that it's completely UNrelated to the strain, they say the only thing that affects whether or not the stem is hollow is the environment and substrate.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: zorak]
    #3497420 - 12/14/04 03:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Ive only grown GT's but they give me a good high compared to the weilii's ive had. Warm fuzzy body high and not a lot of anxiety..


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: Rockstar69]
    #3497588 - 12/14/04 03:58 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Zorak, we all just tell our experiences..no one really knows for sure...perhaps my conditions did change..or were different from one side of my closet to the other..hot spots, uneven lighting, co2 pockets..who knows..same thing could have happened to them....you have to gather from everyones experiences but you must learn yourself and never write anything in stone.

"No, they won't grow stripes....if ur being sarcasitc then dont expect anymore help, and if u are being serious then you jus confused the hell of out me, gl "

He mentioned nothing of stripes. He asked if it would grow SOLID STIPES. The stipe of the mushroom is more commonly known as the stem..


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3498940 - 12/14/04 07:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I checked that other thread, and it seems that this matter is up in the air. Hollow stems could be caused by strain, conditions, or both? I'll try some GT under the same conditions and see what happens.

Ignostic. I wasn't being a wise ass. Sorry if it came off that way. I'm a newly hatched cultivator, trying to figure this thing out. Peace.


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: Cenebite]
    #8234434 - 04/03/08 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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GT's are a wicked strain super fast colonizers and decent potency and yeilds.. check these tiny 1/4 pint GT cakes.. the verm compacted so mad took like 2 months to colonize unincubated.. but it was worth it muahah here are my recent GT's there soooooo beautiful!

NEW GT'S (RECENT)


LAST GT Grow





Those are awesome matey! BIG for GT's like!


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: shoeareyou]
    #8234803 - 04/03/08 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Does Gulf Coast have any special characteristic?

I didn't even know that there are differences like hollow stems or something like that :frown:


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Re: B+ vs GT vs ??? [Re: psychophobia]
    #8234893 - 04/03/08 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Texas is my favorite by far but I have to admit I do love my South Americans:rockon:


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