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Offlinetwilight715
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a question about salvia...
    #3491261 - 12/13/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i'll be trying salvia for the first time this month. a friend is connecting me with his supplier (a personal friend of his) who distributes ingredients and instructions for making 25x. he said he'll be giving me enough to net 5g.
i know to use a bong, to hold it in as long as possible, and not to move around so much, but i still have one question: how much should i smoke? if weight's a factor (which i doubt it really is) i'm 225 pounds and 6'5". any other salvia-related wisdom would be welcomed, as well. thanks in advance!


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: twilight715]
    #3491316 - 12/13/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That is a hard question to answer because everyone is different. Some people have natural tollerance to the active chemical while other have a very low tollerance. What I can tell you is to start out very small and work your way up until you find the right amount.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: AaronEvil]
    #3491414 - 12/13/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, i guess the way i phrased the question was a little ambiguous. what i'm really asking, i suppose, is how much do you guys (salvia users) smoke to get the job done? if there are enough replies for me to get a good idea of the average, i'll have some kind of idea about how much to smoke and probably start with a little less than whatever that average is. then, as you said, i'll work my way up.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: twilight715]
    #3491861 - 12/13/04 04:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Let me say first I didnt weigh my dose. The first time I packed about a little less than a bowl full of 10x and took it all in in one hit. I held it for about a count of 20 or so then let it out and watched as the room started to fragement. I layed back and closed my eyes and saw a whirlwind of the most amazing colors.

The second time I smoked about a full bowl full of 10x. I had been drinking wine all day (Thanksgiving) and I think the lady punished me for being an ass. I took it all in in one massive hit, held it and was presented with the single most terrifying eternity of my life.

Much respect for salvia now. Yes I will be doing it again.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: twilight715]
    #3492013 - 12/13/04 05:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ive smoked it many times and have yet to break through. The first few times I smoked the dried leaves. The first time I smoke 3 bowls rapid succession and I got about a level 3 experience. The next couple of times arent even worth putting here because I used a pipe so it was only about a level 2. When I finally got some 5x extract I smoke one bowl of dried leaves then about half a bowl of the extract and it gets me to a pretty decent level 3. I have yet to break through with the stuff but I will be getting some 10x soon so look for my salvia report when that happens.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: AaronEvil]
    #3492116 - 12/13/04 05:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

if you make 25x you will need only a very small amount to get effects even if you are 225 lbs.
for your weight I would estimate 1/50th of a gram will do the trick
if you are having touble getting effects double that.
I find smaller pipes an a regular lighter work fine.
there is no real magic about that part.
burn and suck then hold.
a minute after is when it begins.
often people are surprised since it is not quite instant
(MJ might be faster)
then shocked at how far it went in such a short time.
(nothing else goes so fast except counting backwrdsfrm 100 in surgery)


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3492913 - 12/13/04 07:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

thanks a lot everyone. i appreciate the input, it's very useful. i'll certainly post a report about the experience when it happens.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: twilight715]
    #3493088 - 12/13/04 07:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I personally didn't like salvia,..I've done it couple of times but every time i did it it gave me a nasty head ache and i was salivating, sweating, and hallucinating some weird (not weird as "weird" but stupid) stuff...i also had this nasty iron- or metal-like taste in my mouth..and i usually did 4-5 hits of 15x..then i just couldn't do more cuz i didn't understand what i was doing, couldn't really see, speak and felt like being ass drunk with hallucinating "side-effects"..I prefer shROOMs..that way i could really explore The "other" side. (but i can't get ahold of them..it's been 4 years :frown: so i just smoke that salvia shit, even though i don't like it, hate it.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: PARABOL]
    #3493145 - 12/13/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

First time I tried Salvia was just with the regular leaves and I smoked 3 bowls. I didn't get any visual hallucinations or anything but I kept hearing a voice talk to me and I kept talking back. It was weird.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3493245 - 12/13/04 08:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i've heard a bunch of weird stories about salvia trips. erowid says it's common for people to observe years of events as paint on a wall. that's fucking strange. especially in a 15 minute window.
PARABOL - as much as i like being able to "explore" with shrooms, i really enjoy the disoriented feeling of being drunk, and have always liked hallucinating, so perhaps i'll like it! too bad that you haven't been able to get hold of mushies in 4 years. out of curiosity, are you in the US?


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3493270 - 12/13/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I LOVE salvia. However, if you are going to do 25x your first time, be prepared to hate it. Salvia will break down your reality as you know it and reconstruct a different one with all the pieces. You will be disconnected and trip HARD. My advice is start with 5x or 10x TOPS before you decide to proceed to doing 25x. If you do not know what you are in for... be prepared to be caught off guard. Check out www.erowid.org if you want more information, or if you want me to elaborate, and talk about smoking techniques, PM me.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: TheProdigy]
    #3493357 - 12/13/04 08:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i checked out erowid, i've read up extensively about it. the only problem is 25x is all that's available to me right now. i can't order any for another month (till i'm back at college with a mailing address other than my home). not to mention, i'm tight on money, and this guy is trading me all the ingredients for some shrooms.

couldn't i just smoke a lot less and experience reduced effects?


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: twilight715]
    #3493503 - 12/13/04 08:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah man, im in California..can't get any..it's like they don't exist but i want them so baaad..i mean i need 'em..i haven't been exploring my other side for so long...:[
any way..yes i like being drunk too and oh boy do i love hallucinating, but salvia is just different...it's confusing, it's physically bad trip for me..but i've heard that it's different with salvia, cuz it reacts depending on individual chemical structure of the body, and so on...
here's a good webpage for ya..i ordered S from there, plus they have some videos people trippin for the first time..but it was nothing like that with me..any way here it is: www.salviasupply.com
hope this helps ya


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: PARABOL]
    #3493546 - 12/13/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I also have like a big bag of leaves and some 10,5X, left but i'm just gonna throw it away..


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: PARABOL]
    #4826776 - 10/19/05 10:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, I've been doing salvia long enough to have picked out some key ideas for a beginner. First and foremost (and let me stress this as the most important thing) HAVE A SITTER. The first time I tried it, I didn't have a sitter, and I was lucky that nothing bad happened. You probably won't need a sitter past your first few times, but until you know what salvia is capable of, its always good to have a friend there. I began with a commercialized grade of 10X, and it was more than enough to have a level 3 trip. One of the great things about salvia is the fact that it has a reverse tolerance in most people, so the more you do, the less you wind up using. For instance now, I can get a similar high smoking 1 or 2 bowls of plain leaf (which I highly suggest trying to grow if your climate permits. It is a much more palatable smoke). But my first level 4~5 trip took about 2 bowls of strong extract. Once again, if you are attempting to achieve this level, have a sitter because the pipe can be hard to hold onto after a first bowl and even harder to refill. Have some soothing music playing in a dark/semi-dark surrounding, and candles help with the visuals. A camp fire is a near perfect enviornment if you're into that sorta thing. Other than that you just need to find your niche.


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: mannjon]
    #4828119 - 10/20/05 03:36 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

out of 1gram 25x, u'll only need a pinch of it.. about a dime sized pile.. and TORCH IT! have someone to grab the b from u. then just relax


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Re: a question about salvia... [Re: 3six5]
    #4829193 - 10/20/05 01:45 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I have 20x locally available, so that is what I use. I use a water bong to smike mine. It has a pretty standard bowl, the kind that is used for metal chamber pipes as bowls and end parts. It only takes me like 20% of that bowl for me to go straight to level 4/5. I can't weigh doses that small, but it is about the size of a postage stamp rolled into a loose ball, not much at all. I actually did a bit too much my first time, because even though I had respect for salvia going in, it didn't look like much lol. Anyway, I agree that it is much easier to start small and smoke more if you need to, than to take too much that first hit. I also recommend a sitter for the first few times. Salvia is crazy in its pure power and speed, I have never experienced anything like it. I combined it with shrooms this past weekend and it was surreal, but not for the faint of heart.

If you are comfortable ordering salvia online mannjon, you might consider ordering some spore syringes from a Shroomery sponsor. Shrooms aren't too terribly hard to grow, and the results are well worth it.


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