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Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex?
    #3484114 - 12/11/04 11:52 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

If the "Hens and Chicks" strain Papaver somniferum has one main head, surrounded by many little heads, would these little heads make it difficult to slice the poppy and collect the latex? Would they sort of get in the way?

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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: theocean06]
    #3484151 - 12/11/04 11:59 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Yes,the chicks would get in the way. I've heard that most people that use the poppy don't lance the pods, but make tea instead..or so I've heard.


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: Pinhead]
    #3484359 - 12/12/04 12:48 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

is tehre somthing wrong with just grinding up teh whole pod, minus seeds, and doing an extraction?


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3484381 - 12/12/04 12:54 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Couldn't you break off the little extra heads and collect the resin that oozes out of the breaks?


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: Funguy]
    #3484621 - 12/12/04 01:43 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

i would think that would break too deep, and probably drip to the ground. but ive never had hen and chicks so what do i know.


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: theocean06]
    #3485341 - 12/12/04 08:28 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Hens, chicks and latex... Someone googling for porn is bound to stumble onto this page, and boy will they be disappointed!


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: koppie]
    #3485717 - 12/12/04 12:30 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

IMO, lancing and collecting latex is a waste of time. It takes literally hours and hours to get a gram of dry latex if you can get that much. In asia they have cooley labor for 25 cents an hour so they can do it that way. Grow your poppies to maturity, take out the seeds for later use and make tea. Another way to go is to soak the crushed pods in hot water, collect the water and evap it down into a paste. You don't boil it down, just keep it warm with a fan going on it. A heating pad under the dish would be good. The pod putty you get can be used as is or can be refined into opium or... other things. You don't smoke the putty, you eat it. The stems make good putty too. I have extra poppy seeds if someone wants to swap for them. This is a good time to plant. I have some going right now. My darn camera just pooped out but I think I'll pick up another one soon.


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #3485740 - 12/12/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

I'm just curious about something, it seems as if everyone is mentioning the tea. Now, are you mentioning it because you feel it is easier to make or that it is less dangerous? I hope it is not the latter of the two.

Anyway, I will have a big enough grow where collecting the latex would be worthwhile. Yeah It will be pretty bad slicing each pod and then going out 6 hours later to collect all the latex, but it's one days work for quite an enjoyable experience. Then I will have all the pods to make tea. I will not be cutting all the poppy heads though, I think I will just leave the Hens and Chicks for the tea.

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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: theocean06]
    #3485839 - 12/12/04 01:10 PM (12 years, 23 hours ago)

You could harvest a gram in under and hour with swift hands and healthy pods. With the hens and chicks making a tea is your only option. You could get some laytex by cutting them at the bottom of the pod and lay them out cuts up. Then scrape the laytex off the scar and use the pods for tea. Theres a thread of someone doing this tek earlier this year.


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3486145 - 12/12/04 02:30 PM (12 years, 22 hours ago)

How do you render a smokable product?


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #3486397 - 12/12/04 03:36 PM (12 years, 21 hours ago)

Rendering a smokable product from poppy straw is harder than one might think (defatting, extracting blah.....) Hens and Chicks are made for tea only. When I grow out pods, I lance them. The smokable product is more than worth all of the work. After I lance them 1 or 2 times, I allow them to naturally dry on the stem and seed the area where they grow. Remember Latex is your friend! :cool:


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #3486506 - 12/12/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 20 hours ago)

The tea is much easier to do and no incriminating sliced pods out in view. And Grower, you aren't going to get a gram of dry latex in any hour. Maybe a gram wet but that's a fraction of a gram dry. You get the same alkaloids from tea as from smoking. Smoking destroys many of the goodies and dried latex is not the same as opium. It has to be refined another step at least. What you are looking for is morphine and it's abundant in the tea or the putty. Yes, there is codeine and other things but m is what people look for.


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #3486583 - 12/12/04 04:23 PM (12 years, 20 hours ago)

To Stonehenge, I have read/heard that the smoke is more pleasurable than the tea.


Myco, have slicing the pods for the first time, how much time do you give the plants before you do it a second time? When you say "I allow them to naturally dry on the stem and seed the area where they grow" are you talking about the latex, or the are you talking about the pods and stems to later be used for tea? (I figure you have to dry them out before making the tea).


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Re: Hens and Chicks - Difficult to collect latex? [Re: theocean06]
    #3487223 - 12/12/04 07:28 PM (12 years, 17 hours ago)

I lance them a total of 2 times, 4 days apart. After that I let them die and dry on thier stems and spread thier seeds all over the area so I will have nice harvests each year.  The latex IS opium, its called raw opium, then you can simply dissolve that into water and filter out the plant matters and get "cooked opium". I find that smoking the latex, and drinking tea are two different highs. Smoking the opium does not destroy many of the goodies.
I enjoy tea very much, but I even enjoy opium better. I grow poppies for the latex and procure dried pods for tea.  What I do not like is synth opiates :frown:.
Anyways grow them out and do what you like with them, everyone has thier own thing. Stay Opted out :cool:


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    #3566670 - 12/31/04 10:42 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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