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ralphster44 and syringes
    #348268 - 06/24/01 10:50 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348318 - 06/25/01 12:34 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ralph, you would be making a good desision if you do this. I fully support you, but will this be with donated prints or your own "supply"
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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348359 - 06/25/01 02:22 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

ralphster, you know making syringes is going to be a big deal of your time..
i also believe,
we cant do everything for these newbies..
a big part of cultivation is confidence...
they need that, its like a baby's first step...
its a big part of cultivation.
we cant do it all.

another thing,...alot of vendors are being shut out....there need to be a balance in this biz / hobby...
the vendors go out on a limb for us...traveling to foreign lands to bring us back treasures...
im not trying to flame at all....just trying to instate a harmonic balance n' shit....lol;)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348368 - 06/25/01 02:45 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ralph, great ideal. I would say 8 to 10 bucks is fair price. Considering your time/supplies it takes to make them and shipping as well. G/L

Help stop the clear cutting of MT. Elphinstone. send a small donation to the Spore Lab are purchase a few syringes, help fight the Government bastards who want to destroy forest for $$gain......


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Taz]
    #348427 - 06/25/01 05:09 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348449 - 06/25/01 06:07 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Dear Ralph, it was never separated thing!!!
As everybody know the FSR was here to bring you in vending bussines. And I sincerely doubt that you will keep you FSR going on when the orders start to come.
So, lets see: you made spores available to everybody. That is not too good thing, because it is getting too commercialised. And we all know what is the legal place of this hobby. So, the thing you did is pretty questionalbe-> but it is internet, if it was not you, somebody else would do it.
But there is one problem out here. You forgot that you will start movement of sporerings. I am addresing to hippie. And the price of spores will drop that much, that soon there will be no profit in this branche. Off course you did it as "hobby", so you did not lost anything.

But...it would be nice gesture of you that you stop moderating spore exchange, unless you are donating money to Thor. It is a little bit rude from you for making spore EXCHANGE place of your advertising.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348495 - 06/25/01 08:19 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

10-12 seems to be the going rate. I think you need to charge that much so you don't "low ball" vendors.


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Anonymous]
    #348559 - 06/25/01 10:42 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Crobih,

I have to disagree with you. I believe that Ralphster started the FSR so people, that didn't have the $20 to pay for a print from somewhere else, could get a print. I believe that there was no other motive here, especially for him to get into the "spore business". I do not see a problem with people picking up this hobby, the more, the merrier in my eyes. Ralphster does this community a great service that involves
a priceless commodity, his time. I think he should be applauded, not condemed.

Taz, I agree, $8 - 10 for syringes would be a great deal

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348562 - 06/25/01 10:49 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I think $8 - $10 is reasonable but if you buy your syringes in boxes of 100 they only cost like $30 and you could fill up 100 good syringes with about 25 spore prints (less if your prints are big or dark and stuff, but 25 would be some nice dark syringes)... If you grow your own shrooms (which I'm assuming you would) 25 prints wouldn't be hard to come up with. Shipping for 1lb or under in a package through the US postal service is only like $3 for 2-3 day delivery or something like that. If you played your cards right you could pull off $5 a syringe (shipping and all) and be making $2 back off each syringe which would suffice to order more syringes and make a $1 profit off each syringe sold to go towards buying more casing and substrate and stuff. You wouldn't be making money off of it that way, but $5 could make you break even... tag on a couple more bucks if you want to make some money.... here's another idea, sell the fsr prints with an option where they could pay a few more bucks for a premade syringe from there spore print... just a thaught. The Syringe idea is a good one though ; )

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Crobih]
    #348597 - 06/25/01 11:53 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

WHO ARE YOU???? I LOOKED UP YOUR SILLY LITTLE CONTEST, YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK STUPIDER EVERYTIME SOME ONE POSTS WITH THE SIG. "CROBIH IS MY FOUNDER OF THE SHROOMERY". WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE RALPH???

First of all, who are you to worry about the prices of spores!?!? do you have a buisness that supplies spores??????

"As everybody know the FSR was here to bring you in vending bussines"

who the FUCK told you that???? i know you live in another country (i think croatia or some other fucked up little war-making machine) so you obviously dont know the definition of the word FREE. And that is the FIRST WORD IN FREE SPORE RING. The raggedy little dollar bill that one can send to Ralph will be replaced by- a 36cent stamp , a 10cent envelope, and a 15-30 dollar SPORE PRINT.

"So, lets see: you made spores available to everybody. That is not too good thing, because it is getting too commercialised. And we all know what is the legal place of this hobby. So, the thing you did is pretty questionalbe-> but it is internet, if it was not you, somebody else would do it. "

It get's commercialized by SUCKERS like you. How is providing free spores questionable????I think that you wish that "somebody else" was you.

"But there is one problem out here. You forgot that you will start movement of sporerings. I am addresing to hippie. And the price of spores will drop that much, that soon there will be no profit in this branche. Off course you did it as "hobby", so you did not lost anything.

But...it would be nice gesture of you that you stop moderating spore exchange, unless you are donating money to Thor. It is a little bit rude from you for making spore EXCHANGE place of your advertising."


I still dont understand how you think Ralph is making money off of this. Why do you care if the prices of spores drop???? you must be too RICH for your own good. But the most likely thing is that SPORERINGS probably squelched your dreams of having something like it! you are so predictable. Who ever puts this SUCKERS name in their sig. is as big a SUCKER as he is. Thank you very much !

"buh-bye"SNL David Spade
hey do you get SNL over there in kazakstan or wherever the fuck you are??? :laugh: lol



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    #348606 - 06/25/01 12:11 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: *HeGz*]
    #348633 - 06/25/01 01:00 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Hegz you fuck!!! Shell you mail me or should I give that GREAT price to someone other?

PS fuck was used in positive conotacions :) ( plase check this spelling for me)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Crobih]
    #348651 - 06/25/01 01:31 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Crobih.... you're not being accepted in this community very well. Your contest was stupid as hell... I think you're pissed at ralphster because he was the moderator that told you this and moved it. The FSR isn't a business... people mail in spore prints which other people get at a CHEAP price. Your reasoning for putting down the FSR is weak... if you really believe in what you said you should be going after the larger vendors that really do make profit.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #348667 - 06/25/01 02:17 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Crobih is right about one thing, r. should not be a mod if he wants to be a true vendor. Vendors not being allowed to be mods was decided on long ago by the shroomery.

I remember when r. first came to the shroomery and all the bad things he had to say about vendors. About how they were greedy and didn't deserve to make money off spores and r. was going to put them out of business. If you can't beat 'em, join'em eh? Lets face it, the FSR is nothing but a front. Nothing like the word 'free' to lure people to your list of $10 syringes and prints.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #348715 - 06/25/01 03:28 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

i hope I did not come across the wrong way when asking if frs spores would be included in the syringe making process..........I totaly trust ralph and know he would do what is best for the community. I know when he starts selling these....I will be going to him! He has totaly earned my trust and faith for the constant reliabality he has shown me and I am sure that goes for everyone else that has become part of the F.S.R.
alder
p.s. mcman, that is a nice gesture of faith towards the f.s.r.
hope to see you ands your intelect around.



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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #348718 - 06/25/01 03:30 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I thought you left mcamn, what are you doing back here? Oh yea...you're a puppet, I forgot.

I hope r. has enough sense to only use fresh spores for syringes like we do here at the SporeLab.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #348748 - 06/25/01 04:19 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

"I know personally that Ralph did not start the FSR to sell syringes. That is just ridiculous!!
He started it because he had success with his hobby and plenty of spores as a result to pass around to those in need. It was and still is a very kind gesture on his part as well as a good service to this community. Starting the spore ring was a great idea and everyone who participates in it is fortunate in my opinion. "

well I know personaly that this is in contradiction with the fact ralph bhought dozens of sporeprints from mjshroomer a while ago when he was starting his bussines. Everybody said how great ralph is!!!
Buying those spores from mjshroomer to spread them free!!!!! How good that guy is!!!
But wait a minute!!! Isnt he now selling spores?

I have to mention one more time that I have nothing against his vending bussines as Max has not. But I hate when somebody is trying to "color" my vision (Cool, I am pretty metaphoric :)). In a primitive part of world I live this tech is used pretty much by those easy profiters. This part of world thinks that friendship and bussines go very well because people love having friends and hate to analize these friendships. So I guess that is the reason I find this kind of people pretty easy. (I am allways analytical)




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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Crobih]
    #348808 - 06/25/01 05:41 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Hello Crobih, MJshroomer was the one who TRAVELED to where these mushrooms grow naturaly and brought back SPORES!!! wouldn't you buy a WILD print???? so you could ISOLATE THE STRAIN!??!?!?!?! HELOOOO???? I'm sure Ralphster would not sell MJshroomer's prints. I think he used them himself and the prints that he got from his success with them were the original FSR sporess...... i wish ralph would address all of this since it's making absolutely no sense...... The only difference between this and the FSR is that he's providing the spores in SYRINGES!!! OBVIOUSLY this is for the NEWBIE! if you'r posting in this thread you probably know how to make a syringe ANYWAY!!! Also, Ralphster didn't even SUGGEST a price. He left it up to US!!!! And then you go and trash him?!?!?!? your fucking ungreatful.... ralphster does not sit back and collect checks like some other spore suppliers, he actualy POSTS IN CULTIVATION / ADVANCED, HE HELPS people. I don't think most of the people who come to these boards would even fathom buying pan cyan spores from other places were it not for the FSR. I'm sorry your so ignorant Crobih.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #348842 - 06/25/01 06:45 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Hey Crobih,

Give your 3.33 grams of Salvia to someone else. Don't like it personally, but thanks. I think someone who needs to use the work "fuck" when responding to someone is not worth my time. But keep using that word, I am sure someone would love to flame with you.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: BrownPastures]
    #348853 - 06/25/01 06:59 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348882 - 06/25/01 07:51 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

mcanm, i'm not trying to 'run you off'. Others did that already! Remember a few weeks ago when you left in disgrace, vowing never to return? You posted that several times before finally leaving us in peace. So I'm just asking why are you back? Thats all.

ralf, it wasn't me who decided that vendors couldn't be mods, it was the members. So now that you are a full fledged (was there ever any doubt?) vendor, you should be surrending the mod tag......or it should be taken away.
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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348883 - 06/25/01 07:51 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ralph, nicely said. (and he DOES have some EXCELLENT Pan prints!)

In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, people take prozac to make it normal.


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348884 - 06/25/01 07:53 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Its great to see that you can keep your composure. All this flaming is directed toward you, but yet you can laugh it off and continue to state the same words you always do. I think thats definately cool. Some people need to learn to control there tempers, and if they don't like something, keep it to themselves, because its obvious that they aren't changing anyones opinion, just ruffeling feathers.

Tired of pimping yourself on the corner to afford spores? Well throw out that red dress and go to the FSR, for spores even you can afford.


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: *HeGz*]
    #348894 - 06/25/01 08:05 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #348900 - 06/25/01 08:12 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348908 - 06/25/01 08:18 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Why is it there is so much politics in everything? Every damn bulletin board I'm on ALWAYS has some sort of drama. Can't we just all get along? We should all just be happy we found this wonderful hobby! Share it with others! Let vendors sell what they want. If they are pulling shady business, we will eventually find out and they will be out of business. I think everyone should just mind their own business and not have to put down other people for what they want to do (give away free spores, make money..etc.) It's a free country, you do as you please.... just my 2 cents.. peace

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348911 - 06/25/01 08:22 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ralph-

Eventhough I am new to this board, I have heard rave reviews about your FSR. Keep the good shit up. Madd Props to you.... peace


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #348912 - 06/25/01 08:26 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome back McMAN!:smile:

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348917 - 06/25/01 08:28 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck with whatever is to come ralph ; )

Max... you're a good guy but you seam to have a short fuse on certain subjects. Believe what you want to believe, just don't preach it.... in laymen's terms be a critic but keep it to yourself. Everybody gets there panties in a knot over a couple lines of text from someone you'll most likely never know other than on the internet... sometimes it is fun just to see who will get heated over something you say though, heh.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #348950 - 06/25/01 09:27 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #348956 - 06/25/01 09:35 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just asking questions and giving opinions, nothing wrong with that. As hippie would have said..'somebody has to ask..'!

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #349032 - 06/25/01 11:19 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I believe the reason Max say's what he has been saying for some time now about vendors and mod's is because he see's ralph as a fellow vendor because ralph deals in spores just like max. I no ralph keeps saying he is not a vendor, but in some people's eye's he is a vendor, and in some people's eye's he is not. these discussion's are important so that all can draw their own conclusions over these matters. OK, a while back there was a much heated discussion over this issue when the vendor's forum was first formed. alot of people wanted ralph to be a mod here and alot exspeacially vendors did not want to see this. So Thor made said no to try and help keep the peace. And now that ralph is a mod, it may look to captainmax as a double standard. Even though ralph is not a mod in vendors, (and he does not interfer in this forum as a moderator). This is in no way a flame towards ralph are any of U. I am just pointing out what I have observed these past few months.

And lately ralph and max both have been avoiding trashing each others threads in this forum, for which I thank both of you guy's for this. you are both my friends as well as McMan. You all contribute greatly here wether U think so are not. So I hope that this helps people to understand how max may feel about this issue. And I wish Thor would post in here as well and give his side of things concerning mod's and vendors and help clear this up once and for all.

McMan, it sounds like your getting out of the hobby, are R U just trying to clear out some of your stock? Glad to see your still around. I hope that in time the scares will heal and you'll post more often. (and in case anybody is wondering, McMan did apologize for all the stuff that happened awhile back. He certainly didn't have to apologize to me but he did through pm's, several times. McMan did what he felt was right and he believed in what he did. Just as max believe in his opinion over vendors and mod's. These are all issue's that needed to be addressed to set people's minds at ease. and the only reason why I locked some of McMan's threads awhile back was not because of what he posted but because everyone else was jumping in and attacking each other and it got to the point that the real issue was not getting addressed. so I felt it had to be stopped and finally McMan and Hawk were able to address each other according as they both felt they had to.

Anyway, Ralph, I am glad that you are so calm over this. Maybe we can all learn something from this.



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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: *HeGz*]
    #349126 - 06/26/01 03:18 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Hegz. Didnt you read explanation of the word fuck? Did anybody ever tell you whassup mother fucker?
Did you find that person worth your time? I mean if you do not want price, thats fine with me, but do not use these arguments for it. It is shalow.


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Crobih]
    #349129 - 06/26/01 03:22 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Crobih]
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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #349659 - 06/26/01 10:39 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ralphster If you are going to keep the free spore ring I would like you to have a page on my new site please. My goal is a one stop shop for mycology supplies. Please let me know.

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    #349666 - 06/26/01 10:46 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #349796 - 06/27/01 03:45 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

just scrolling through this thread it reads like a trashy script from some daytime soapie... you guys need to chill (well most of you... :smile:

i have never won/received a print from ralph yet i am still able to see that what he does is great! i know that if i, as a newbie, could have paid a dollar for a print to mess around with then i would have! and i believe that is where a majority of the FSR prints would go... to newbies who do not fully understand all the processes involved and don't want to possibly squander 15 or 20 bucks on a print that they could ruin. now if ralph wants to move out into syringes i say "fucken yeah!" this is someone using their own time to make full use of free enterprise! that is how the fucking US exists today, as capitalist free enterprise! if people do not like ralph's products they will not buy them!!!

and as for putting other vendors out of business... i think that is quite a silly idea. vendors have been around for a long time because they provide a good service. in my short time here i have seen a new vendor open business and half a dozen "mycology supply" type places go up. again, this is an open market. what difference will one more vendor make? i think this whole thing will be cool if ralph keeps the fsr and his syringe business separate (as he said he intends to do).

i hope i can post this without making too many enemies! it is not well thought out like some fucking political strategy. i did not sit here and plan what to write for hours. i am just offering one more log to the fire.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Taz]
    #350083 - 06/27/01 01:44 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Taz, McMan never left. He just hasn't been posting. Watch how he blows you out of the water. peace

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
    #350268 - 06/27/01 05:56 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

What do you sell? Coffee filters? You're not much of a vendor...or a mod.

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    #350300 - 06/27/01 06:35 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Max maybe you get confused sometimes, you seem to think the world is against you. I understand you do great work protecting Mt Elphie, but Nushroom and others are not loggers.

You must be needing those loggers to start up again, that way you'll stop attacking people here at the shroomery, instead you can focus your negetive energy for something usefull like protecting the forrest.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Thor]
    #350313 - 06/27/01 06:52 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

There is a double standard here at the shroomery thor. I'm on one side and certain mods are on the other.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ]
    #350317 - 06/27/01 07:03 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ralph should not be a mod because he sells his own prints and makes money from the fsr. Ralph how would you making syringes help newbes out? There are plenty of syringe suppliers as is and you don't need to use "I'm helping the newbie as an excuse to start your syringe buisness" A newbie can go to any of the allready preasent suppliers and be plenty hapy. If you started the syringe buisness you would net even need to grow because of all the donations to the fsr. THere is so much drama here at the shroomery. Why don't you just announce you are going to sell instead of asking for a debate. The fsr is good and all but there is also something called the spore trading forum where the prints are free and there is no bitching and no drama but dont I repaet don't trade anyhing with dxmhead420... he will rip you off.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: tom]
    #350325 - 06/27/01 07:21 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Most people agreed that it would be unfair to the other vendors if one was allowed to be a mod. Obviously their is bias afoot. I wonder what they are getting paid in. Spores? Money?

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #350349 - 06/27/01 07:48 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Listen mcspam, I don't give a damn if he wants to sell syringes, not a wit. But he should not be allowed to be a mod. That is what the shroomerites discussed and agreed on a few weeks ago. You know that.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #350356 - 06/27/01 07:54 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Screw you mcmna, you're nothing but a puppet, human or sock, it makes not a diff.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: McMan]
    #350362 - 06/27/01 08:00 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #350371 - 06/27/01 08:10 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I simply pointed out that you are vendor and therefore, as per the opinions of the majority of shroomerites in a recent poll, you should NOT be a mod as well. Quite simple isn't it? So quite trying to make it out like I'm cutting down the frs or you selling syringes...thats bullshit. I don't deal in prints and I don't care if you sell syringes.
And I will not bump your thread anymore. You got a problem, pm me. Anymore posts on this subject, knowing full well that I will not respond, will only reveal a sneaky, dishonest person.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ]
    #350380 - 06/27/01 08:27 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Captain, my Captain, Ralphster is a moderator of the Spore Exchange forum, not the VENDOR FORUM. That is what we decided as a whole.


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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ]
    #350383 - 06/27/01 08:29 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

you don't have to worry about bumping this thread max, it will never get past your stickey thread. great idea ralph, good luck wih the spore vendor business. if there's any thing i can do to help just let me know

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ]
    #350430 - 06/27/01 10:16 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Captain... is there anyone on this board that you respect, or even like for that matter? Please don't take this the wrong way. I think your dedication to Mt. Elphie and the environment deserves to be aplauded and I am certain your efforts and willingness to give of yourself are deeply appreciated by all that support the cause with you.
As a vendor yourself I am surprised you resort to voicing your opinions the way you do. You belittle NuShroom as a Vendor because of only selling filters. I would think, since your entire product base consists of only two items, syringes and little bags of vermiculite, you would be a little more tolerant towards NuShrooms efforts. You insult the product and then finish with a personal slam of NuShrooms abilities as a Mod. You then proceed to insult all the mods and/or members whos thoughts or opinions differ from yours by suggesting they are being infuenced/bought with money or spores. Not exactly a method from the pages of "How to win freinds and infuence people".
I have read many of your posts to members about teks and proceedures. Many are quite informative and helpful showing that you are knowlegeable about what you speak. It is beyond me why a Vendor, such as yourself, would alienate a newbie with a snide remark about a "stupid" question, when that same person could be a potential customer for you. Would it not be to your advantage to just politely inform them to read a certain tek or even direct them to it, if you have the link? Failing that approach... you could just not reply to their post.
Again, my apologies if you take offence to my comments. It's just my opinion. But, then again, I'm not a Mod or a Vendor here so my opinion is probably of no importance to you. I'm just another member.

Ralphster... I can't think of anyone better qualified to Mod the "Spore Exchange". Your becoming a Vendor does not diminish the excellent work you have done with the FSR and should not have any berring on your being a Mod in any forum but "Vendors". I have received FSR and personal prints from you, adding syringes to your personal offerings is an excellent idea. I hope you expand with this venture and do very well. You deserve it. I would also like to add my personal thanks for the FSR.

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    #350453 - 06/27/01 10:59 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Gay........

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: I_Sore]
    #350905 - 06/28/01 05:03 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

IMHO... Ralphster is a great guy. He helped me out and didn't ask for anything in return.

Last time I checked we DO live in free country. If you want to do then go for it.

I will support you Ralphster!

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: maria420]
    #350938 - 06/28/01 06:03 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

420........blah

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #351649 - 06/29/01 06:46 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Back to the original question:

Should you sell syringes?

Well... why the heck not? There are plenty of other spore vendors out there who do.

On the one side you run the Free Spore Ring, which is really the "Free Spore PRINT Ring". I don't think that a "Free Syringe Ring" is a good idea, unless you wanted to charge $2.00 instead of $1.00 and included an EMPTY syringe with the print. As you say, making a syringe is pretty easy, but not all newbies can find empty syringes readily. With a print and an empty syringe they can make their own.

Okay, FSR aside, there is your own print-selling business. Note that I don't say it is necessarily a PROFITABLE business, but it is undeniably a business. It is different from the FSR in that it is your OWN spores you are selling. Some you bought bulk from others to resell, some you created from your own stock. But no matter where you obtained them or what price you choose to sell them for, you ARE selling them, therefore you are already a spore vendor, albeit one who at present restricts himself to prints.

You wear two hats... Chief Distributor for the FSR, and Spore Vendor Ralphster.

As Spore Vendor Ralphster, you have every right to sell either prints or syringes or live tissue cultures or all three. I honestly don't see why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot over it.

Now for the moderator/vendor issue *sigh*

As I understand it, your moderating powers don't extend to the Vendor forum, am I right? You can post to this forum like any other member, but not lock or edit or move or delete posts? If that is the case then I don't understand why Max is so ticked off. I fail to see how your moderator status in another forum creates a conflict of interest in THIS forum.

As an aside, nice to see McMan posting again.

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: ralphster44]
    #351900 - 06/30/01 09:42 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Stick to the FSR.
The Free Spore Ring is a truly commendable philanthropic service you provide dont ruin it by getting into competition with the spore vendors. If you really are "looking out" for the newbies who you say are not confident enough to make a spore syringe (which btw I dont agree with) then you would keep the price of these spore syringes to no more than $5 to show your not doing this for profit unless thats what you are doing it for then call it what it is "spore vendor" and dont hide behind the FSR. I dont know if I qualify as "your friend" but thats my thoughts on the idea anyways.



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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #351981 - 06/30/01 01:01 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

He he that is called being pragmatic. LOL

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Re: ralphster44 and syringes [Re: Crobih]
    #407345 - 09/28/01 08:37 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Heh..this is the only thread that was not locked about ralphsters imorality issue.

There are several of them pretty cool where Ralph was acting paradoxically, for just in case :).

PS. I am very bad person, but it has nothing with that.It is in the fact that there is no greater pleasure then helping the masks drop down. heh..

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