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Offlinedeafpanda
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Got arrested - UK legal question
    #3481636 - 12/11/04 02:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Hey there boys and girls, as you probably deduced frm the title, I got arrested the other day for possession of dried magic mushrooms (class A drug).  I stupidly forgot that I had them in my bag, and as I went into a club one of the bouncers asked me if I wouldn;t mind being searched.  Not realising that I had the shrooms, I said yes.  He found them and asked me to wait in a little office until the police came.  My question is, did he have the right to stop me from leaving?  I asked him specifically "do I have the legal right to leave my shrooms here and leave now?".  He said no.

Was he right?  I didn't think that bouncers had the power to detain people.  I am in the UK.

On the upside, due to my incredible politeness and co-operation and the fact that I had no previous convictions, I got away with a caution :smile:


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: deafpanda]
    #3481654 - 12/11/04 02:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

did he have the right to stop me from leaving?

no. you could have left.

people: KNOW YOUR RIGHTS.


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: deafpanda]
    #3481717 - 12/11/04 02:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I got away with a caution




Damn... sometimes I hate living in the US.


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: ]
    #3481930 - 12/11/04 04:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

are you sure UK is same as US?


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: Tao]
    #3481963 - 12/11/04 04:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It's just a natural fungus :shrug: Glad you didn't get the death penalty on your first offense.

Hey :piggy:'s, if you don't like them, don't eat them. Who are we hurting?


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: Tao]
    #3481967 - 12/11/04 04:24 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

people who aren't cops cannot detain people, make arrests, etc. i would be very surprised if this is different in the UK than the US.


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: ]
    #3481979 - 12/11/04 04:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

what about citizen's arrest?


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: TODAY]
    #3481983 - 12/11/04 04:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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what about citizen's arrest?




Who did he hurt???


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: dr_gonz]
    #3482051 - 12/11/04 04:48 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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drgonz said:
Quote:

what about citizen's arrest?




Who did he hurt???




he had mushroom corpses in his bag... for shame! :shake:


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: blink]
    #3482241 - 12/11/04 05:28 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It's a bizzaro world we live in. Everything is upside down and backwards. Afterall, war is peace!!! :shrug:


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: deafpanda]
    #3482360 - 12/11/04 05:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry to hear about your predicament. According to this site I found on google, it sounds like they do have the right.

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If they find any weapons or drugs they can confiscate them and detain you until the police arrive. Anything else taken from you must be returned to you when you leave.




It also says this (although maybe it's not much help now):

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Under the Private Security Industry Act 2001, doormen have to be licensed and are breaking the law unless they are wearing a badge to show they have been trained and vetted.




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"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: Edame]
    #3485343 - 12/12/04 08:33 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for that.

On a side note, my arrest restored a little faith in my police service. All the cops were very civil to me, one of them even said in private that he doesn't think that what I did should be a crime, and that they don't really actively pursue peaceful drug users, they are just obliged by law to arrest them if they have to. You do get some good cops. They even gave me cups of coffee and cigarettes when I was in the cell waiting to be interviewed.


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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: deafpanda]
    #3485532 - 12/12/04 10:49 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

deafpanda said:
Hey there boys and girls, as you probably deduced frm the title, I got arrested the other day for possession of dried magic mushrooms (class A drug).  I stupidly forgot that I had them in my bag, and as I went into a club one of the bouncers asked me if I wouldn;t mind being searched.  Not realising that I had the shrooms, I said yes.  He found them and asked me to wait in a little office until the police came.  My question is, did he have the right to stop me from leaving?  I asked him specifically "do I have the legal right to leave my shrooms here and leave now?".  He said no.

Was he right?  I didn't think that bouncers had the power to detain people.  I am in the UK.

On the upside, due to my incredible politeness and co-operation and the fact that I had no previous convictions, I got away with a caution :smile:




Dude, do you really think a bouncer has the legal right to detain you? Even if he tried to keep you there you could have RUN.






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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: Learyfan]
    #3485784 - 12/12/04 12:56 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

As Edame said:
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If they find any weapons or drugs they can confiscate them and detain you until the police arrive. Anything else taken from you must be returned to you when you leave.




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Re: Got arrested - UK legal question [Re: deafpanda]
    #3485830 - 12/12/04 01:08 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

They can't detain you. If they try.....RUN!





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