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How to make the USPS work for YOU
    #3480043 - 12/11/04 12:45 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to cross-post, I accidently put my info up on the law and activism forums first.


This is a repost of my post from
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246312&highlight=postmaster

First of all I'd like to thank everyone here for providing such a wealth of information regarding stealth and security. However, I seem to notice very frequently that misinformation is spread regarding the USPS and their handling of mail. Here are the first few tidbits of information you may be able to use to further protect yourself.

First and foremost in my opinion is to inform everyone about first-class mail and the family of products that fall under its term. First-class mail includes first-class letters and parcels, priority, and express mail. Do not consider foriegn air-mail to be "first-class" because once it leaves our shores it won't be treated as such. First-class mail is protected against unlawful search and seizure in the same way that your home is. Because of this, any law enforcement agency will need to procure a warrent to open this mail. Because of this information, I have driven across a few states with 50 romulan clones in a box with addresses and stamps on it. I knew if I got pulled over, while they may or may not find probable cause to search the car, they will need a warrent to open the box. This also means that if you are mailing anything that doesn't smell like pot (seeds, mushrooms, etc) you should mail it first-class mail and package it very well. I'll cover packaging a little later.

First-class mail goes on airplanes. Priority often goes by FedEx planes now that we have a cooperative contract with them. Otherwise, it goes on whatever private carrier we can find at the time. Because of this, there's never any telling which plane things will go on or when they'll leave. I don't send pot by plane because it's not predictable. I can send things to California via first-class mail because I know that from my area to LA all our mail gets transported via truck.

Secondly I'll cover standard mail. This covers "parcel post" mail, or ground mail, which includes Standards A and B mail, Media (book) Mail, and Bound Printed Matter. This is mail that won't be going on airplanes and won't get sniffed by any dogs for any reasons. This is your safer bet.

I recently recieved a nice quarter ounce from a friend in California via Media Mail. I had him wrap the baggy tight with reynold's wrap, then re-wrap it with some cayanne pepper in the wrapping so that in the off case a dog does sniff at it, it will most likely get this and ruin its sense of smell for a week or so, but it's not a foolproof method. Then, the baggy went into a video cassette clamshell, which was then taped closed, placed in a box with stuffing, and each seam of the box was covered with a sturdy tape. I personally like self-adhesive THICK brown strapping tape for its durability and ability to seal well. This was sent via Media Mail and took about 4 days to arrive. I've received an ounce at a time and I know I could recieve more, but I don't want to do it too frequently because it's just not the greatest idea.

When packaging anything, make sure you seal each seam. This not only prevents scent from escaping better than if you hadn't, but it also prevents tampering and prevents the parcel from being opened. If the person on the other end knows that you will cover each seam, when you recieve it make sure each seam is still sealed. Also, for further security, write something along where the tape and the box comes together. This will provide another indicator as to whether or not the parcel has been tampered with. If the letters don't match up perfectly, you know the tape has been taken off.

In all my many years of postal experience I've only TWICE seen law enforcement ask to watch mail coming to a certain recipient, and he was dealing in kiddie porn. I see plenty of contraband go through the mailstream, and I'm able to tell this because I've recieved so much of it in my years. Basically I believe it's safe to mail most contraband if you're smart about it. Postal workers do not recieve training on identifying contraband other than bombs. I've never seen a parcel break open with contraband in it. You can see where I'm going with this.

Hopefully this was mildly informative, and I will continue to post any information I believe is pertinent whenever I have the time to.

Grow on!


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: postmaster]
    #3486174 - 12/12/04 12:35 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Your posts are greatly appreciated. Thanks :]


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: postmaster]
    #3486627 - 12/12/04 02:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Have you or do you work for the post office?


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: theocean06]
    #3486800 - 12/12/04 03:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for the info, it's definitely appreciated!

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: theocean06]
    #3486821 - 12/12/04 03:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I'm assuming he does, as he talked about inspecting mail etc.


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: theocean06]
    #3487934 - 12/12/04 08:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't want to mention specifically what portion of the postal service I work in but let me say that I've worked doing pretty much everything other than carrying mail itself and have worked in offices as small as 2 carriers up to main offices with 4 or 5 stories and hundreds of employees sorting mail at any given time.


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: postmaster]
    #3487943 - 12/12/04 08:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Well thank you for your threads, they have been very helpful.


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: theocean06]
    #3518073 - 12/18/04 07:20 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

This is great info. The media mail idea is pure gold. I've been thinking about this recently so I'm glad you covered it.

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: loosidd]
    #4143430 - 05/06/05 05:24 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

BUMP

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4189578 - 05/18/05 12:56 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

thanks!

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: postmaster]
    #4189722 - 05/18/05 02:10 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

What about shipping internationally what is your advice?


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: Turdy]
    #4190647 - 05/18/05 11:22 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

man i wish i would have read this earlier.
a guy i know had spores shipped to CA. He figured overnight was best cause that was less time for the packages to be tampered with. Turns out the overnight and next day type packages are the ones that are focused on!!!
the sender also forgot to waive the signature, so the CA dude had to walk down to the post office and sign for it!

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: postmaster]
    #4191249 - 05/18/05 02:11 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Amazing post, going right on my favorites list. Thanks so much postmaster.


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4191283 - 05/18/05 02:21 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Thanks for the info  :thumbup:

Edited by MushmanTheManic (05/18/05 02:22 PM)

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5482102 - 04/05/06 09:25 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

2nd bump

this post is great

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: InTheFlesh714]
    #5482262 - 04/05/06 10:16 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, thanks for bumping.


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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5490794 - 04/07/06 06:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I was told by someone, not confirmed but they said:

"Never send anything by media mail because post office can open it to see if it really contains media without warrant."

Can someone clarify this please?

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: rawtoxic]
    #5490926 - 04/07/06 08:16 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

yes they can open it. when you ship media mail they stamp it "media mail, subject to inspection". they give me a hard time every time i send media mail, but i dont care becuase it is meida i am sending. i wouldnt send contraband through meida mail.

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Re: How to make the USPS work for YOU [Re: DieCommie]
    #5490972 - 04/07/06 08:39 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

great post, very informative.


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