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Offlinelonestar2004
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New york times would love the terrorists to be christians....
    #3469772 - 12/09/04 11:59 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

if the Christians had planned 9/11 or they were beheading people in Iraq or murdering filmmakers... the left, liberals would have no problem dwelling on the Evil christian terrorists. they would be called evil fanatics instead of resistance fighters. if the terrorist were Christians you would see more crackdowns instead of more cultural sensitivity.
the Muslim who killed van gogh shot him and cut his throat with a butcher knife and left anti christian and pro Muslim material pinned to his body. because the killers were Muslim new york times viewed it as a cultural misunderstanding . new york times said a crackdown on Muslim extremist would be wrong, instead the dutch people need some type of national sensitivity program.

now a piece of shit christian terrorist killed an abortionist provider Dr. Barnett. (1998) the new york times said there needs to be the severest crackdown possible by law enforcement, this is an assault on the rights and liberties of all Americans.

to bad van gogh was not murdered by pro-life Christians the new york times would have taken his murder seriously.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3469827 - 12/09/04 12:09 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)


Quote:

this is an assault on the rights and liberties of all Americans


Wanting to punish a murderer is an assualt on the rights and liberties of all Americans?


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3469966 - 12/09/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

I'm not even sure where to begin with this post...

Has the New York Times proposed a crackdown on christianity?


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3469986 - 12/09/04 12:46 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Do you think that George Bush should be personally held accountible for the actions of the men serving "under him" in the armed forces? For instance, the torture of Iraqi prisoners?


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: Gijith]
    #3470340 - 12/09/04 02:00 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

the new york times has proposed " the severest possible crackdown" on christian terrorists. (extremists) but the times says any legal crackdown on Muslim terrorist would be a mistake. why treat them differently???


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470416 - 12/09/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

you're gonna have to provide a source, dude.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470441 - 12/09/04 02:21 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Is it "We, the New York Times, say that there should be a crackdown on Christian terrorists"? Or is it a individual journalist who has said something to this effect?

And yes, this ties in with my previous question (still waiting on an answer).


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: trendal]
    #3470620 - 12/09/04 03:06 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

SOURCE:


Violence Against Abortion Doctors. Editorial, new york times.

Deadly Hatreds in the Netherlands. Editorial, new york times


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470623 - 12/09/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

What kind of sources are those? Can I at least get a date of publication or a link so I can go read it myself?


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: trendal]
    #3470691 - 12/09/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

i do not know how to do the link thing, sorry. i will look up the dates.

but you are right Trendal these are just two articles, but IMHO the new york times is a journalistic copy machine of the democratic party talking points.

and Trendal how should Muslim extremists and Christian extremist be dealt with?????????????????????????


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470718 - 12/09/04 03:28 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

October 26, 1998

November 5, 2004


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470740 - 12/09/04 03:34 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

and Trendal how should Muslim extremists and Christian extremist be dealt with?????????????????????????

If they kill someone, they should be dealt with as murderers. Whether or not they were religious is BESIDES THE POINT in a society that claims to separate State from Church.

If you murder someone, you should be dealt with as a murderer. Period.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: trendal]
    #3470743 - 12/09/04 03:35 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Thanks for the dates!


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470810 - 12/09/04 03:49 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
SOURCE:


Violence Against Abortion Doctors. Editorial, new york times.

Deadly Hatreds in the Netherlands. Editorial, new york times



I'm no fan of the new york times, but those are editorials that are likely written by two different people. It only stands to reason that they might have different opinions and on top of that one was published before 911 and one after. We all know that event changed the way a lot of people think about terrorism.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3470824 - 12/09/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

October 26, 1998

November 5, 2004




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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: Vvellum]
    #3471853 - 12/09/04 07:12 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

pointless link deleted by Rono


Edited by Rono (12/09/04 08:18 PM)


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3471878 - 12/09/04 07:17 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

You know what, this is enough. GET THIS FUCKING JERK-OFF OUT OF HERE.
It's time for him to go just on the basis of endless thread derailment :thumbdown:  I don't disagree with most of his positions but he is a bore and a nuisance.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3471917 - 12/09/04 07:24 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

g.s. it would help if you said something and not just leave spam.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3472100 - 12/09/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

he's an obfuscator, from what I have seen. Even if he said something it would just be to distract or confuse us

to the original poster: why focus on just this one hypocrisy when there are so many other glaring problems with the mass media? It's not just the Times, trust me. All newspapers, not to mention televised news, are completely subjective and controlled by private indaviduals. Don't expect a fair opinion from a rich fuck with private interests.


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Re: New york times would love the terrorists to be christians.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3472519 - 12/09/04 09:20 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Watch the the "liberal media"  :rolleyes: is gonna brainwash your children!  Those anti-Christian, pro-terrorist bastards!!  Seriously, the NY times is a sensationalist rag like practically every other infotainment newspaper out there.  Somethign happens in there own country they react like its the end of the world and if something happens 3000 miles away they can take a step back and give their elementary anaylsis of the situation.  Would you prefer the times said "The Dutch should crackdown on all muslims and follow their every move; those evil murdering barbarians!"  Because it sounds like that the only proper response they could have given to not be terrorist apologists.  They just want to sell as many papers as possible...


This republican "liberal media" myth is getting old....


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