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Offlinegsmith
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"turkey" oven bags PC-able?
    #3469551 - 12/09/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We cooked the bird in an oven bag this year. (i hear it was good, wouldn't know because I don't eat flesh) Got me thinking, if these things can survive 325-350F in an oven, can they take a trip in the pressure cooker?


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: gsmith]
    #3469571 - 12/09/04 10:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yes they will i just did a bag last night.. i put foil under the bottom of the bag using wbs.. so it had protection form the pc


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: djred]
    #3469579 - 12/09/04 10:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

now another trick is..cut a water bottle near the top..you want the cap and the base it screws on to..fill your bag then run the bag through the base up fold over then use the plastic ring type push that down over the bag that will hold it to the base..then i used a rubber band also to wrap around below the cap area.. then cut some tvek, your going to cut out a small hole in the cap..place tvek under cap then screw it on ..it should catch the threads between the bag..wha la


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: gsmith]
    #3469587 - 12/09/04 11:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Have not dome it , but just the other day someone mentioned using these guys for just that ... myco bags from home so to say !
Good Luck

PS plan on some venting points , take a paper puncher and make a few holes , once out of PC cover holes with 3M micropore tape to prevent contams from getting in and media drying out to rapidly .


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3469642 - 12/09/04 11:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thats why you have a hole in the cap with tvek under it..the pressure has to be released..my bag turned out great 2 hours of cooking..go with what someone has done..trip d is right pressure can build up..there is a post on making home bags for myco.


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: djred]
    #3470612 - 12/09/04 03:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Polyfil stuffed in the hole works great as well and will serve as a self healing injection port:




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How I do grain (old still good tips)
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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3470634 - 12/09/04 03:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thanxs bro just the one i was looking for..


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: djred]
    #3470747 - 12/09/04 03:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Trips method works as well but youll need to seal the top of the bags with an impulse sealer..then use a hole puncher for air and the micropore tape to cover it and keep contams out. I havnt tried this but its the method Hyphae uses so I know it works as well..just easier for me to do the way I do..


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3470783 - 12/09/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That is very ingenuitive little capping method you made there .
Very cool !
Keep up the good learning there scat ! :wink: :thumbup:


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3470806 - 12/09/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That is the exact tek that I use for my oven bags, got it from scat though :wink:  :thumbup:

How much grain are you putting in those turkey bags scat?


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3470902 - 12/09/04 04:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I havnt tried with grain yet..honestly bags a pain in the arse compared to jar IMO..I use them to sterilize straw (yes sterilize) but otherwise I stick with my quarts.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3470920 - 12/09/04 04:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea to be honest I just tossed my rigged up bags, not worth the hassle. I might try bags again with some nice mycobag ones, but jars are where its at compared to those things. Also, approximately what volume do you get out of those mini bales? I know I asked but I didn't really get a good answer that I could apply to my own setup. They are much more expensive, but easily accessible.


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3471030 - 12/09/04 04:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Like I said I'm not sure..when I worked with straw before it was a huge bale. I'd say two tubs that are 2 foot by 1 foot and 4-6 inches thick per 7 dollar bale.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3471491 - 12/09/04 05:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey scat, a couple of questions for ya!

1: How do you keep the bags from melting by touching the sides while in the PC?

2: How long does it take for one of those bags to completely colonize?

3: Why are bags more of a hassel? They seem they would be much easier. Just dump all you stuff in, close it up, PC, then inocc through that sweet polyfill injection port setup you got.

Thanks!


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: madsickpenguin]
    #3471847 - 12/09/04 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

aluminum foil wrapped under the bag and around it..creates an egg shell ..your wlecome..i just did his idea night before and it worked nicely.


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: djred]
    #3472624 - 12/09/04 09:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:bump: thanks djred

Would someone please answer questions 2 and 3 from my post above? Thanks. :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


Edited by madsickpenguin (12/09/04 09:35 PM)


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: djred]
    #3472634 - 12/09/04 09:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hey scat what are those round things in the top of the bag, ya know the different colored rings ??


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: sunofogun]
    #3472784 - 12/09/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

um i injected mine with karo so i trying to hope for maybe a few weeks at most


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: djred]
    #3472987 - 12/09/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wrapped in a towel. They're sloppy, they hold alot of rye so if a bag gets contamed you lose like 3 quarts of rye in the bag..they're sloppy to carry around..sloppy to put in the incubators..tough to do grain to grain transfers with...just all around annoyance.

This is just me though...most people find them more simple and I highly suggest trying them! The tops are the tops of two litter bottles as someone (djred?) described above..cut off the very top and put a hole in the cap and unscrew it. You can see it unscrewed in the pic with the box of bags..you stick the bag through the bottom part and screw it down over the ridges.

How long would depends..straw with 5cc's took 3 weeks but rye would be different I'm not sure more or less because the only bags I've done like that were a different filter method and all contamed..no injection point and didnt wipe with alcohol. That put me from bags a bit I guess..-shrug-


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: "turkey" oven bags PC-able? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3475162 - 12/10/04 09:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hey thanks guys! I wasn't actually thinking of using the bags for substrate. More like for my casing material. Haven't graduated to bulk substrate yet. I like the idea for using the bottle cap for filter patches. If I ever do substrate I think I might try something similar with a plastic peanut butter jar I've got. Fits my filter lids perfectly.


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