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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3471285 - 12/09/04 05:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

back to sqaure one when someone posted that they do 5 point injection on grains..:)


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3471293 - 12/09/04 05:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No I haven't tried rye. Problem is it's pretty hard to get rye down here. The closest to rye I have ever gotten to is cracked rye. Popcorn is probably the easiest to get around here. Birdseeds and all, I probably have to go far to actually get a hold of.


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf]
    #3471323 - 12/09/04 05:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes rye can be hard to find, even in the US..I do have to drive an hour each way twice everytime I want to pick up a 50 pound bag of rye for 27 bucks. My girlfriends out that way anyway so not such a big deal for me but still..its a hike. I've been stretching it by mixing in a bit of WBS (like 5 quarts for every 20 of rye) and a bit of verm (about the same as WBS) so I end up with like 30 quarts instead of 20 quarts but getting the nutrients out of rye not found in WBS.

Previously I thought I remembered hearing WBS was better then popcorn but I have yet to try popcorn (because I remembered it was worse then WBS)..perhaps I should try popcorn mixed with my rye instead of WBS if you say it works better when cased directly? Or is it just easier to get ahold of? And how many times have you tried both?


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3471353 - 12/09/04 05:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not really sure which grains are better than which. I guess the only way to find out is by trying them out. I haven't gotten ahold of WBS yet so I can't do that, neither can I do rye. I'm hoping oneday I'll get to try them as my grain substrate though. Also planning on trying out agar real soon.


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf]
    #3471355 - 12/09/04 05:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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HydroSmurf said:
No I haven't tried rye. Problem is it's pretty hard to get rye down here. The closest to rye I have ever gotten to is cracked rye. Popcorn is probably the easiest to get around here. Birdseeds and all, I probably have to go far to actually get a hold of.




I'm back

WBS (wild bird seed ) can be gotten just about anywhere on this planet , drug stores , wal mart, k-mart, osco drugs , wal greens etc..............

I get mine at a feed and grain store that specializes in birds . can be bought in bulk any where from .49 cents a pound up to 1.00\lb .

Rye can be gotten at health food stores , home depot , lowes , and some feed and grain places carry it to .

Keep working with the pop corn for now , but consider grains , you will not be sorry if you do IMHO .


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: tripndicular]
    #3471375 - 12/09/04 05:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

trip, thanks alot. I do plan on going out to search for it, now you just narrowed down my search, haha. Agar though, seems really fascinating. Haha.


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf]
    #3471415 - 12/09/04 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do notice he lives in Japan though..could make finding those things harder.

I guess I will try out some popcorn as well..cant hurt.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3471432 - 12/09/04 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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scatmanrav said:
Do notice he lives in Japan though..could make finding those things harder.

I guess I will try out some popcorn as well..cant hurt.




Where there are birds , there are people who like to feed birds also  :wink:
Sorry did not pay attention to the Japan thing .
Seek grasshopper and you shall find !
Hell I use Japanese millet in my mix  :wink: :thumbup:


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So with that said here is our mission statement .

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Edited by tripndicular (12/09/04 05:38 PM)


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: tripndicular]
    #3471465 - 12/09/04 05:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Not to be off the topic and all. But I was just wondering. Can you say wrap your casing mix in tin foil and place it in the PC to sterilize it?


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf]
    #3471469 - 12/09/04 05:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, you guys want anything from Japan? lol. :laugh:


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf]
    #3471481 - 12/09/04 05:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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HydroSmurf said:
Not to be off the topic and all. But I was just wondering. Can you say wrap your casing mix in tin foil and place it in the PC to sterilize it?




Better to jar it , in foil you may have problems keeping moisture content right . That or bag it . Plus you would have to use it ASAP , in jars you can store it for weeks before using it .


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf] * 1
    #3471486 - 12/09/04 05:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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HydroSmurf said:
Haha, you guys want anything from Japan? lol. :laugh:




Sake and a Geisha would be nice  :wink:


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3471653 - 12/09/04 06:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sure boy! In my Volkswagen station I have a beautifull wife a lovely daugther and the best dog of the world! :thumbup:
Further we have a tent so we camp where ver we like, fishing rods, etc!

Ow yes and every two hours we stop and picknick for an hour or so and takin it easy. In the mountains of France, in Genova, Pisa, Toscane.... :laugh:

LOL while you and your daddy are walking the streets of Rome, being robbed, drinking cola and taking pictures of churches! :lol:

Ah its a matter of taste so, enjoy your trip! :thumbup:


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3471731 - 12/09/04 06:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just PC-ed popcorn for 50 minutes, rinse drain, put in jars, PC again for an hour and bamba! good colonisation, but shake too much I hurt it got contam in casing as well... :frown:

many people who do it this way (no soak or simmer just PC) I got it from Sweden and I believe the homies there where doin it before folks at the shroomery..

You could always try a jar!


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3471737 - 12/09/04 06:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I gotta think that not simmering in any case is bad advice. Simmering owns.


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: HydroSmurf]
    #3471751 - 12/09/04 06:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3471767 - 12/09/04 06:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Mwah, my popcorn was more then moist enough, the hard fuckers get real moist after PC-ing it almost an hour dude :P

LOL if you are using towels they might be TO moist? :grin:

Btw our valued agar does not rcommend simmering in his WBS tek, dont know why though...
I did WBS today and, after soaking it 16 hours, I did not see an increase in volume after 15-20 minutes simmer.


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3471783 - 12/09/04 06:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

One injection point squirting in 5 different directions. No extra contam risks at all or must be from the needle being in the hole longer... :p


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: tripndicular]
    #3471803 - 12/09/04 07:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Some growing dude here says that popcorn lacks things like certain vitamins what BRF for example DOES have.
Also stating that that can affect potency in a negative way.


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Re: Innoculating jars with popcorn. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3471828 - 12/09/04 07:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

huh where you can you buy rye at lowes? i call your bluff. im going to the web site right now..unless your talking about rye grass seed?


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