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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3467066 - 12/08/04 09:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

that's what you guys are here for
to decide when context is appropriate
if somebody makes a sick (and NOT funny) joke :smirk:
like that in OTD, a mod such as yourself can check the context, be sure it is a joke and make sure the remark was appropriate
that's why mods are here right?
but if we honestly believe this person is a pedophile, he has no place here.
read his post history
his nick references pedophila,
he has admitted on the board to being in a "relationship" with a 14 year old boy!
all his posts have discussed his attraction for young boys and how it makes him feel like an outcast
he is obviously either a sicko or a troll, and i am surprised no mod/admin consensus has been reached to this end yet
:thumbup: to cervantes for the intial ban, but i support something a little longer lasting
this sort of poster will only draw unneeded attention, not to mention the fact that no matter how far removed from the norms of world culture the shroomery might be, we are not an island, and someone's claims here might lead to actions IRL
he needs to be shown that there is no place in society that accepts the promotion of these kinds of things


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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: muse_sick]
    #3467202 - 12/08/04 10:22 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Well, directly or indirectly LadMirer has expressed his attraction to young boys in almost all of his posts here, and in his very first post he also admitted that he doesn't trip. In my humble opinion the purpose why he has joined this community is to seek approval to his sexual preference - paedophilia, homopaedosexuality in particular. Yes, Shroomery is a very tolerant community, we respect free speech etc. etc.

Although science has not yet answered the question about what causes paedophilia (I and many others tend to think it's pathological), I believe that even *if* a child could handle a sexual relationship with an adult that was mutually approved and not physically harmful, when he grows and learns about what has happened to him in context of general opinion, the guilt and shame about it may cause too much harm to his psyche. With this I condemn paedophilia, because it can cause nothing but harm and destroyed lives, both childs and paedophiles (has any of You *ever* heard a 'happy ending' paedophile love story?). I am sorry for You LadMirer, but You have a very serious problem and You should seek professional help. Despite what You may think or want to believe, "boy lover" is not a genetically predestined sexual orientation but a mental disorder caused by a complex of factors in early adolescence like feeling being different from other children, alienation, problems in relationship with parents, diminished or distorted masculinity or femininity, premature introduction to sexuality etc. etc. (I will hold to this as long as some modern day uberFreud proves me wrong.)

I don't know how old You are, but this gender confusion and search of ones sexual identity has gone mainstream among teenagers nowadays. Some people find it to be the only way how to think of themselves as special and different from others. If You indeed are under 18, I suggest You chill the fuck out and find Yourself a nice hobby.

So what are Your intentions joining The Shroomery? Looking for young boys to talk to? Unlikely. You have to be 18 to be a member of this community, and most members are older than that. Interested in fungi and/or psychedelics? I don't think so. You admitted Yourself You don't trip and You haven't mentioned fungi once. Spreading the word? Sorry man. Are You seeking help and support? Physical and Mental Health forum is a great place for that, if You *were* interested. Want to talk about paedophilia? There are enough "boy lover's" communities out there. Putting the human face on paedophilia? You're not doing very good at it either. Hell, look at Your nickname!


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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: Grizz]
    #3467305 - 12/08/04 10:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, you're right... wrong choice of words by me.

What I meant to say was that I'm not condoning breaking any laws as they stand... BUT, I AM questioning them and the views of society--which is perfectly all right to do. It's okay to discuss why you think something that is illegal SHOULD be legal.

So when I say that a man who is in a loving relationship with a boy should be allowed to give the boy a blowjob if the boy truly wants it... well, there's nothing wrong with that. I haven't showed that I have broken the law, nor have I said I was going to. I have simply stated my dissatisfaction with the current system.

I'm sure you all do that about mushrooms all the time. And I'm sure that you're thinking "but this is DIFFERENT you SICKO! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH BOYS HERE!!!!"

And I really can't fault you for thinking that way. After all, sex is such a HORRIBLE thing. I couldn't possibly think of anything more traumatic than getting a blowjob from someone I love and trust. /sarcasm


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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: muse_sick]
    #3467377 - 12/08/04 10:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

muse_sick said:
that's what you guys are here for
to decide when context is appropriate
if somebody makes a sick (and NOT funny) joke :smirk:
like that in OTD, a mod such as yourself can check the context, be sure it is a joke and make sure the remark was appropriate
that's why mods are here right?




except that there is always someone that will take a comment a little too
seriously, in some instances they will disregard the fact it was a joke and
deliberatly blow it out of proportion, just as was done a short time ago
now the person that made the joke is being ridiculed and persecuted by
dozens of people simply because he made a tasteless joke and another user
may not have liked it...

that user has had many threats made against him, do we treat those as a joke
as well, or due to the serious tone should they be treated as such. where then
do we draw the line...



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but if we honestly believe this person is a pedophile, he has no place here.
read his post history
this sort of poster will only draw unneeded attention,
he needs to be shown that there is no place in society that accepts the promotion of these kinds of things




I've read his post history, I'm still not convinced he's not a puppet aimed
at attracting the attention of a few select members that have remained outspoken
on the subject, I've heard the same about unneeded attention in reference to a
few others, on this subject I definately agree, it simply has no place here.
would we also ban anyone that claims to be muslim, catholic or a jesuit, these
people may not openly condone the acts but its aparently widely practiced within
their belief system...


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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: ]
    #3467428 - 12/08/04 11:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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LadMirer said:
What I meant to say was that I'm not condoning breaking any laws as they stand... BUT, I AM questioning them and the views of society--which is perfectly all right to do. It's okay to discuss why you think something that is illegal SHOULD be legal.




right, but this board is aimed at psychedelic fungi, not sex. the minimum age
for this board is 18 years old, discussion of sex with minors is frowned upon
and in the majority of instances chastized, regardless of the orientation.

if you read the posts, its declaring your sexual preference in every post that
has people concerned. I'm sure there are hundreds of other forums that would
cater to your needs much better thant the shroomery, this site doesnt appear
to be a pleasant place to ahve the conversation.


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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: ivi]
    #3467525 - 12/08/04 11:24 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Hey ivi,

Thanks for the thoughtful post. I agree with a few of your points.

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I believe that even *if* a child could handle a sexual relationship with an adult that was mutually approved and not physically harmful, when he grows and learns about what has happened to him in context of general opinion, the guilt and shame about it may cause too much harm to his psyche.




I couldn't agree with you more. Society is so fucked up on sex. It is a dirty and shameful act. In all reality, sex is just a natural human funtion. But once the human mind gets ahold of it, it changes it into some unnatural taboo thing.

Suppose there was only one man on the entire planet... there was no history, no society... nothing but this man living alone on planet Earth. He had it all to himself... and one day during his travels, he happened upon an egg. And from this egg hatched a baby boy. And the man took great joy in finding this boy and bathed him and clothed him and provided him with shelter, food, water, and love.

And as the boy grew, the bond between the boy and the man grew and they loved eachother. And the boy began discovering things about his body... that certain things felt good. And so the boy asked the man to do these things for him... like a massage, or a blowjob.

Would you say that there is anything harmful in this relationship? Well, this type of relationship between men and boys exist on this planet today.

And so now you have a society that doesn't understand the genuine love. Which is really something you can't refute. Love is love. Whether between a man and his girlfriend or wife, gay lovers, or a man and a boy. If the feeling is there between both individuals, then that's it. How can somebody say that love between so and so type of people is valid, but love between a man and a boy is sick and perverted? IT'S THE SAME GOD DAMN FEELING!

And so, you're right. A boy could grow up and feel shame and guilt over what happened. Because society would make him feel that this love was in some way wrong, even though the love is no different from any other love. Love is love. Doesn't matter who's feeling it.

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Despite what You may think or want to believe, "boy lover" is not a genetically predestined sexual orientation but a mental disorder caused by a complex of factors in early adolescence like feeling being different from other children, alienation, problems in relationship with parents, diminished or distorted masculinity or femininity, premature introduction to sexuality etc.




Hahahaha, it's so laughable how you say that with such authority. Piss on it. Everything you said there is just a human invention--a concept. Reality is beyond concepts. Love is real. You can't explain love. It just is. You feel it. You know it. Once you try to describe it, the description fails. It becomes a distortion of reality. When you say that the love I have for boys is some mental deficiency, you are taking the True Love that I feel and twisting it into some man-made concept.

Seek professional help? That's the LAST thing I'm gonna do. What the hell would I go and do that for? So they can expose me to all types of 'treatment' and tell me how I have to live my life? Hah! Fuck no, man.

Okay, that is all on this subject for tonight. You guys keep getting me back on this topic. I was talking about homebrew in the pub before I came here and saw that you guys were still talking about boylove... geez. Do you really want to drop this or not?


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Re: Question about ratings system. [Re: ]
    #3467558 - 12/08/04 11:29 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ thats how i get here its in my favorites You should update your bookmark to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ yea, wtf!  i'm not talkin' about the Main Index  i'm talkin' about the MAIN.. index.  where it lists the most recent 5 posts or so.  it's been displayin' the same ones for days now.  i think someone needs to fix this problem.  i don't care about the main index of the BB showing the amount of new threads/posts.. .but the MAIN index.html of the shroomery should list the recently posted posts... 'cause otherwise, why do i have http://www.shroomery.org/index.html as my main page?  :tongue:
  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat=  There is something similar what you regard already built in in the board software.

If you look at the bottom of the main index.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat=

you will see

View recent messages
Past 24 hours
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Past 7 days  Not if you have to type them in.

I type in
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you type in shroomery.org/forums/

Which is shorter? :wink:  Oh look theres other forums click me :smile:  I was looking around and noticed that the bottom of  the main index page it says there are no birthdays today. Yet if you click on the  calendar link and then on  January 23 2004 it shows that it is Grovesk8ters Bday.

Just thought it was courious and perhaps an error.Anno posted how to edit the host file at www.*************.org but the post was promptly deleted by an admin.

I can only remember how to edit the file in XP, perhaps Anno or someone else can help with the other operating systems.

In Windows XP go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and then open notepad. Drag and drop the hosts file into notepad and you should see something like this:

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# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
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#      38.25.63.10    x.acme.com              # x client host

127.0.0.1      localhost

Add to the bottom line of text 69.28.174.165 www.shroomery.org and click save.

Access the shroomery by the following link: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/I fixed this, before when I typed in: www.shroomery.org/forums
i would get to the main page where I wasn't logged in... but if I clicked on any link, I would be logged in... quite annoying.

The problem was that /index.php was redirecting to: ubbthreads.php instead of http://www.shroomery.org/forums/
so my browser for some reason went to:
http://shroomery.org/forums/ instead of www.shroomery...

now it's fixedPris you work here
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