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CherryBom
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Pot and Spirituality
#3467221 - 12/08/04 08:25 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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First and foremost...obviously; Rastafarianism What does a sweet smelling power blunt mean to a rasta? Is it equal to sitting down and reading the bible or meditating? What if s/he decides not to smoke for health reasons? Is that like sacrelidge?
Wicca I read somewhere that there were certain covens in the 16th century and surely throughout other periods in time who would partake in this herb during energy rituals and spells and stuff. Aparently the shift in awareness brought them closer to the goddess and heightend their power.
Christianity In real life, all the Christians I know are straight-out evangelist wack-jobs. Swearing: sin. Pre-marital sex: sin. Drinking: sin. Drugs: possession by the devil himself. Now most of the 'internet' Christians that I have come across seem to be a little bit more liberal. Does marijuana fit into any aspect of Christianity? I don't know....
And all grouped together we've got Eastern Religions Because I dont know a whole lot about them.
What about New Age ? I'm sure that one might not fit into the traditional definition of religion, but it sure counts.
What about you? How does this sweet green plant fit into your spiritual regime if at all?
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3467579 - 12/08/04 09:33 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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ah yes I like this post. I will say you are right on the Christian view of drugs, even marijuana. The blindness of categorization, and niave veiw of reality that some people face in certain areas astounds me.
As far as Wicca goes, if it harms none it is OK.. harming yourself counts, so does lung damage prevent the Wicca from smoking anything? Perhaps the effects from smoking marijuana and the spiritual learning through them, out balance the harm done.. But who is to lay the rules, are you god? That is the problem, we all are( in the sense we all have an 'ego' and serve its ultimate purpose)
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3467637 - 12/08/04 09:44 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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For Eastern religions, overall I have not heard of Buddhists using the friendly herb, but some Hindus who see Shiva as their main god love it. I believe they use it as a gift to Shiva, along with other drugs. Taoism, I do not know but have never heard of them using drugs either
I also believe some non-Shiva worshipping Hindus smoke the herb, but most of the interesting and recorded instances seem to be those who use it to get in touch with Shiva and use it as an offering to the Destroyer and Restorer of worlds. After all, what herb helps you see the world destroyed and restored as much as cannabis?
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3467692 - 12/08/04 09:55 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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you need to find some better christans for role models
were not all like that.
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CherryBom
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: joe666]
#3467734 - 12/08/04 10:03 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, I do.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3468081 - 12/08/04 11:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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jesus used to baptise people with hemp and some other oils
some buddhist monks smoke hash pretty much all day 24/7 out of pipes
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Ravus
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3468103 - 12/08/04 11:05 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah, and the Sufis are rather reknown for their cannabis/ hashish use. They're a group of rather renegade Muslims (in the views of the more traditional ones) who look for Allah within, and think of Mohammed as the prophet but don't necessarily follow the Qu'ran and Hadith to the word. They're known to use drugs and other means to try to get in touch with the Allah within, and one of the founders of the Sufis, who found the beautiful cannabis plant growing and tried it, was nearly constantly high
As for me, marijuana and hashish are extremely useful at the right times. If I've thought of a new idea or am in a philosophical mood, marijuana makes me think of it differently, rather hard to explain but I think many would know what I'm talking about
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3468165 - 12/08/04 11:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm having a religious experience from pot brownies right now, listening to Aphex Twin.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: silversoul7]
#3468228 - 12/08/04 11:30 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean by religious? Are the brownies giving you visuals, or just an insightful philosophical mind enhancement experience?
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Ravus]
#3468393 - 12/09/04 12:00 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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fairly intense visuals, with wierd body load, and ultimately something that felt like the 4th Density Consciousness that Shroomism talks about. I was actually kinda freaked out for a while cuz of how strong I could feel my heartbeat, but then took a Vicodin, so now I'm feeling a little better.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3468491 - 12/09/04 12:18 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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You ever read up on Rastafarianism?
I have.. Ive read LOTS.. It fascinates me..
And, its nothing more than a cult.. A really REALLY fucked up cult...
Wiccans: well I dont know much but they most like lived like ancient tribes where medicine or secrets were kept known by a select few and were given to others as a means of control during certain "ritual" times..
Christians..: Real Christians are nuts.. Most people I know who call themselves Christians arent very religious at all.. They go to church 4 or 5 times a year and sin all the time.... REAL christians I know who are strict religions are all fucking cock sucker weirdos.
Eastern Religions.. Well the 75% majority cant be wrong... Can it?
New Age? Lets just say that these are nothing more than fast rising cults aimed at gullible white kids with mommys credit card, movie stars and kids on acid...
You would be amazed at how Scientology grew on Sunset Blvd in Hollywood cuz of the movie stars that followed it.. Now that Madonna is into Kabala Scientology "churches" are closing faster then they opened and Kabala churches are moving into their places....
I believe that science holds the biggest and best key to the link between marijuana and people... Its proven that in human brains their is a receptor for THC... We are genetically disposed to accept getting high from this single plant...
This is a link that is scientifically as strong as bees to flowers and all other environmentally beneficial animal/plant relationships.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3469446 - 12/09/04 08:17 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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My uncle once saw that I was reading one of those "druggie" books.(Actually it was on Eastern Religions). He came into the room where I was reading and just busted out with, "I hope you don't think you can drink or smoke anything to get you closer to God because that's wrong." I chose not to reason with him at that time because he was not centered in a reasonable place, and it would have done no good or worse, backfired. My friend told me about one of her neighbors- a black man who smokes crack for inspiration before writing. His sermons that is. He's a preacher.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Jellric]
#3469998 - 12/09/04 10:49 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The sacrament of communion in christianity is a placebo ethnogen.
Do any of the christians care about the part of the bible where God is like 'Yo, I am gonna let you dudes have all these kick ass plants that I made?" Because whenever I talk to christians about it they are like "Drugs, and percussion, and deep thinking, open your mind and opening your mind is bad cause the devil can get in. So don't smoke that Demon weed or listen to those musicians with negro drum beats."
I hate most christians.
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CherryBom
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: tomk]
#3470046 - 12/09/04 11:02 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh my. If I had to choose the most offensive word between 'hate' and 'cunt', I'd choose 'hate'.
I bet there are some pretty cool people in your life that you don't even realize are christian.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: tomk]
#3470065 - 12/09/04 11:06 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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> I hate most christians.
Thats like hating a cop for enforcing the law. It isn't the cops fault that some lawmakers passed stupid laws. In the same way, most Christians are good people that have been misled by the church. Interesting that both the misled cops and the misled faithful are being screwed because of greed for power and money. Try loving instead of hating sometime.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470112 - 12/09/04 11:17 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok here is my take on the whole thing Drugs have a very heavy Spiritual quality about them because in fact they have been with Man since Apelike creatures first walked up right and evolved into modern man It stands to logic that our Brains have had a Symbiosis relationship with Psychoactive plants for 50,000 years. Therefore Man's brain and psychoactive plants have evolved toghter. Man the religious zealot as we are today, is the new creature from this symbiosis between plant and Man. It is our very nature to desire altered states and can not be avoided. There is a second part to this............ I will Pm it to any one who wants to hear it
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Edited by Fucknuckle (12/09/04 11:59 AM)
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CherryBom
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3470230 - 12/09/04 11:41 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Drugs have a very heavy Spiritual quality about them because in fact they have been with Man since Apelike creatures first walked up right and evolved into modern man
Evoloution!? But I thought according to the great book of your god, we were all decendants of Grampa Adam and Gramma Eve? I wonder if Adam and Eve ever sat around the Garden of Eden on a friday night with a fatty spliff rolled up in dried leaves?
There is a second part to this............ But it is a lot to take in.
Sometimes you really can be arrogant.
Translation: The knowledge that I possess on this topic is far to complex to share with you. I will hold it until you are ready, young grasshopper.
Or: I am too lazy to get philosophical today, but I want ot maintain an air of mysterious leadership.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470272 - 12/09/04 11:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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You have put something into my words.
"It is a lot to take in " Does not mean any of that.
It means that it would be alot to share and would take a HUGE post.
But of you want my entire explanation I will send it to you in a PM.
As it will address the subject of Creation.
Not all Christians buy into that. The entire religious Creation theory is Whacked if you ask me.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470293 - 12/09/04 11:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
CherryBomb said: Or: I am too lazy to get philosophical today, but I want ot maintain an air of mysterious leadership.
I am sending you view point
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Seuss]
#3470305 - 12/09/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's like hating a cop for enforcing the law.
Ever hear of jury nullification? In the same vein if a cop decided not to harass and intimidate people under draconian laws I might respect him/her. In my experience sensible and humane treatment are furthest from a cop's mind. In all of the times I have dealt with law enforcement I have been "helped" a grand total of zero times. On the other hand I have been intimidated and harassed multiple times.
Until the police force of the US changes their hiring and continued employment practices I will continue to hate the police.
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CherryBom
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: newuser1492]
#3470339 - 12/09/04 12:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe if you didn't treat them like jerks, they wouldn't treat you like a jerk.
Cops have treated me badly when I deserved it the most, when I put myself in danger, or was acting irresponsibly. When I have had minor, unimportant slip-ups, I usually get off quite easy.
I still double check myself whenever I see a cruiser, but it's quite ignorant to 'hate' cops, as much as it is ignorant to 'hate' christians or black people.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470398 - 12/09/04 12:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I treat them the same way I treat everyone else. I don't cater to their engorged ego nor do I treat them as less than human. When everyone you know, including yourself, has been mistreated by the police for no reason except for their own twisted gratification it is easy to begin to despise them.
Also knowing many people who have entered the police academy a person can begin to see a trend in the police officer mental process.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Seuss]
#3470403 - 12/09/04 12:11 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thats like hating a cop for enforcing the law.
Well, in the Nuremburg trials they did prosecute people for war crimes who were just following orders, so there's some international law precident for attacking those that are simply enforcing the laws.
I do think it's pretty silly to hate someone for their beliefs. When someone talks about how they're absolutely right about their religion/spirituality, and anyone who doesn't hold similar beliefs is going to hell... that's obnoxious.
The US was founded primarily by protestant reformers who turned out to be the more obnoxious and dedicated of the Christians, and this has remained the backbone of American faith, so they're kind of everywhere. Even while the rest of the industialized world is becoming increasingly secular, particularly in Canada and Europe (where the EU's economy seems to be tearing the US a new one).
Wait a minute. This thread is about pot.
I don't consider myself a spiritual person, at all. In fact, I make a point to avoid spirituality.
I do like goofing around though, making up convoluted stories, and going to great lengths to alter the way my mind works to the point that things take on a new light, whether it be through drugs or excercises in creativity.
Pot is definitely one thing that either helps me with that, or at least makes it more fun.
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CherryBom
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Phluck]
#3470433 - 12/09/04 12:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spirituality shouldn't be something that is taken seriously.
It SHOULD be fun, beautiful and carefree. You know that feeling when you get home from a 9 hour shift and your feet hurt and your grumpy and there's no cat food and your cat is all like MEW! MEEEEEEEW! MEW!??
Well smoke a joint. Your feet stop hurting, your defintely not so grumpy anymore and you might even have enough energy to go to the grocery store and get some cat food.
THAT is what it's all about.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470483 - 12/09/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cops have treated me badly when I deserved it the most, when I put myself in danger, or was acting irresponsibly.
That reminds me of a story in one of Bill Bryson's books. He's a travel writer who writes really interesting and funny books about his adventures around the globe, as well as one great book about the english language.
Anyways, this was in his book about Europe, I forget the title right now, but he was talking about the cops in Denmark compared to the cops in the US. He had seen this teenager who was on some sort of psychedelic slip and fall, hurting his head. Not too badly, but there was understandably a lot of confusion and distress amongst the kid and his friends. Luckily some cops came by, asessed the situation, and in a very friendly and polite manner, helped the kid up, and offered to give him and his friends a ride to their homes or somewhere safe, without making a big deal or calling their parents. He pointed out that in the US, the cops would have certainly treated the kid like a criminal, searched him, and at the very least, called the kids parents and ratted him out.
There are definitely cops out there who abuse their power, and mistreat people for no particular reason. I was once stopped while walking down the street because the cops were looking for a car thief. After they determined that I had nothing to do with the incident, they let me go, but not before backing over the pillowcase that contained my new bong with their cruiser, and handing it back to me with a sneer.
I've also had cops who were exceptionally nice.
One time a couple friends and I stopped by a park to sit down and smoke a quick bowl before going home to relax and watch some movies, and while we were there, the city parks guys drove in with their truck. This rude old guy got out and started giving us shit. I had dumped my pot out on the grass behind us, and thrown my pipe down as well. The guy went on a big long speech about how we were "throwing our lives away", they then took our IDs and sat in their truck with them for 20 minutes while we waited. A paddy wagon showed up, I guess the cops were expecting to have to make an arrest. The parks guy gave us each a ticket for $110 for disturbing the peace in a public park (the couple who walked by smoking cigarettes and talking seemed to be more distruptive than we were, but whatever), and then told us that the cops were going to be giving us a hell of a lot worse than that, and left. The cops searched us, took my friend's pipe, and also found my pipe laying on the ground
The officers who showed up were fairly young, and they watched as the parks truck drove off, then turned to us and told us they thought that the parks guy was kind of crazy, and that they weren't going to do anything else to us.
"I've had that pipe for years...", my friend said.
"Mine was a gift from my sister", I said.
They gave us our pipes back, and told us not to tell anyone.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Phluck]
#3470652 - 12/09/04 01:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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as for christianity, cannabis is a gift from God Himself.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470711 - 12/09/04 01:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd agree Bom, but I think the word has all kinds of other connotations that I'd rather avoid.
I'm a chilloutifier, not a spiritualizer.
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Swami
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3470831 - 12/09/04 01:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is spiritual about a substance that makes me want to sit on the couch with a bag of Cheez-Puffs and watch Star Trek?
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Swami]
#3470943 - 12/09/04 02:07 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well spirituality, much like psychoactive drugs, is a very personal experience.
Marijuana doesn't make me want to eat or sit on the couch watching Star Trek. Subjective effects should be EXPECTED to be different from person to person, in all things
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: trendal]
#3471052 - 12/09/04 02:23 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Marijuana doesn't make me want to eat or sit on the couch watching Star Trek.
You don't get the munchies?
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Swami
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: trendal]
#3471098 - 12/09/04 02:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can honestly see someone equating pyschedelics to spirituality, but even the strongest marijuana has elicited no such response in this reader. Getting fuzzy-brained for a while does not make me think of cosmic things. Perhaps it has been too long since my initial experiences when it had more powerful effects.
It may be more mental "tolerance" than physical as I rarely toke. I can go six months, then blaze some killer budz and be barely even phazed. There is no high nor insight for this man.
Do other long-time users still get off on this substance or is it merely habit?
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Phluck]
#3471112 - 12/09/04 02:33 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rarely, yeah.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Swami]
#3472013 - 12/09/04 05:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said: What is spiritual about a substance that makes me want to sit on the couch with a bag of Cheez-Puffs and watch Star Trek?
Exactly what I was wondering...
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I don't think any drug is intrinsically spiritual. Drugs affect each person differently and in some cases can be used by the person in a spiritual manner. Marijuana allows me to visualize situations with great clarity and allows me to think in different directions. It does not, as someone said, "make me want to sit on the couch with a bag of Cheez-Puffs and watch Star Trek." If I choose to do so then marijuana may potentiate the experience but that is completely a matter of choice.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: CherryBom]
#3472378 - 12/09/04 06:56 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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marijuana is still one of the most fascinating drugs for myself.
how it fits into S&P ideas depends on the day.
most of the time it is carefree and a silenced mind. it serves to me as a reminder of how my mind could operate.
all and all it's about going with the flow and this plant serves are a great reminder to live in the now.
-------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: kaiowas]
#3474554 - 12/10/04 01:39 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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"It may be more mental "tolerance" than physical as I rarely toke. I can go six months, then blaze some killer budz and be barely even phazed. There is no high nor insight for this man."
Aha! Indeed, you should go with the high. Why fight it? Why resist? Afraid your true nature might come out? Afraid of how it might make you look? Hmmmm...maybe you need to work on some things.
*Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
"Whoah...ugh, yeah? What do you want from me?"
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Swami
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: the_phoenix]
#3474594 - 12/10/04 01:51 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why do you assume I would "fight" the experience? Alcohol also has little affect. Am not saying that my body isn't affected nor that I can drink a fifth, but there is no "high".
Could be that the terrain is too familiar. Do amusement parks hold the same thrill as an adult as they did to you as a child?
-------------------- The proof is in the pudding.
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the_phoenix
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Swami]
#3474621 - 12/10/04 02:00 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The amusement park doesn't itself change, rather its your perception that changes. Nobody forces negative perspectives onto adults.
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frogger25
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: GabbaDj]
#3474740 - 12/10/04 03:06 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
GabbaDj said: I believe that science holds the biggest and best key to the link between marijuana and people... Its proven that in human brains their is a receptor for THC... We are genetically disposed to accept getting high from this single plant...
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actually the brain has atural thc receptors for endocanaboids, not marijuana. it is the opposite of what you describe, the plant is genetically disposd to make a chemical similar to the one in our brains.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=...0F783414B7F0000
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Moonshoe
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: tomk]
#3475074 - 12/10/04 06:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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in my oppinion spirituality is all about opening yourself to wisdom and truth outside of normal waking conciousness. Religion/spirituality itself originated in shamanic cultures with the 'techniques of ecstasy' methods of achieving transcendent states of conciousness.
I think that method of spirituality is still viable to us today, maybe more than ever.
"I chose not to reason with him at that time because he was not centered in a reasonable place, and it would have done no good or worse, backfired. "
good job man i wish i could do this more often. Realize when speaking just aint worth it
"My friend told me about one of her neighbors- a black man who smokes crack for inspiration before writing. His sermons that is. He's a preacher. "
wow. it has a certain warped logic about it
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kaiowas
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Re: Pot and Spirituality [Re: Moonshoe]
#3475082 - 12/10/04 06:57 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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"in my oppinion spirituality is all about opening yourself to wisdom and truth outside of normal waking conciousness. Religion/spirituality itself originated in shamanic cultures with the 'techniques of ecstasy' methods of achieving transcendent states of conciousness."
well said...damn I love S&P
-------------------- Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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