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Free Energy
    #3464173 - 12/08/04 01:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Check em out if you are interested in free energy technology. Makes me wonder why we are in wars and have 3rd world countries. If you are short on time- just go to the cheniere site straight off.

What do ya think?


http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

http://www.cheniere.org/


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Re: Free Energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3464183 - 12/08/04 01:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hehe, EM makes me fly! :P


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Re: Free Energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3464366 - 12/08/04 02:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why do I think?

That you want to believe in magic.

That there is no conspiracy or lack of funds for something with nearly unlimited payback.

That an actual working device would make the top of the news and be hailed as the greatest scientific achievement ever; not hidden on a con man's website.

From the Website:

"March 26, 2002 will be the date I put in my diary as the day the world changed?forever."

Nick Cook
The Hunt for Zero Point

OK, I will be looking forward to that date.  :rolleyes:

"There's a sucker born every minute." ~ Joseph Besimer


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3464584 - 12/08/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Swami - what's your take on these guys? - http://www.fuellesspower.com

They are defiling the good name of science :shocked:
Are they scammers and if so let's get 'em :evil:


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3464594 - 12/08/04 02:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hehe


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Shroomism]
    #3464647 - 12/08/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Of course they are scammers. Why sell plans when you could sell the "real thing"? All websites referenced are selling documents, books and videos ($150 for a fucking book?!) However, I am sure that they are legal though unethical. I doubt there is any law against selling (erroneous) information, drawings and pictures.

"This engine runs very quiet and does not pollute the air!"
I think they meant it runs "quietly". Poor grammar aside, a device they doesn't run at all will not make noise nor pollute.

"Up to 350hp can be possible once you learn the secrets of building this engine."
Technically, zero horsepower falls into this set. Whoopee!


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Re: Free Energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3464669 - 12/08/04 02:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I know all about free energy:

delta G = delta H - T delta S


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Re: Free Energy [Re: phi1618]
    #3464689 - 12/08/04 03:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I can always count on the swamster


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Shroomism]
    #3464701 - 12/08/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Where you been hiding? I need a sparring partner to keep me sharp.  :tongue2:

What do YOU think of free-energy? Future possiblity, current reality, fantasy or what?


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3464751 - 12/08/04 03:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the universe as a whole is perpetual motion in place

as is a single atom

as far as man-made perpetual motion machines or limitless energy, I think it might be possible (maybe through harnessing the orbiting energy of electrons around their nuclei), but such a device would be soooo radical that it would blow these hoaxes to shit :smile:


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Re: Free Energy [Re: deff]
    #3464801 - 12/08/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well first you have to get these amazingly tiny ropes to lasso the electrons...

I invented a "free energy" device years ago. I built two huge eletromagnets and hid them in stone walls on both sides of the highway. Every time a car went by it would cut the lines of flux and generate a current that I stored and used to power my house.


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3464816 - 12/08/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Magic shmagic. There is a trick, teachable to all of it, ask any magician. There is no such thing as magic. The inexplicable only remains an unsolved mystery until you figure out how its done.

I have beleived free energy technology has been around for a loong time.

That's one site of hundreds out there. People all around the globe are playing with it. I wanted to raise awareness about it. It's exciting to imagine it in global use.

What makes cheinere a con man? What is he conning people out of? What do you know about him or his invention to support your claim that he is a con? If you have supportive evidense on him and his invention, please do share it.

What do you know about all of the inventions and inventors of free energy technology out there for that matter? Please share it. I'll keep posting links here for you to refute with evidense, okay?

Are you even personally interested in this stuff or are you just bored and nit picking for fun?

Do I think it would be all over the news? Not neccesarily. As if everything in existance is on the ten o'clock news? They would rather report murders, burgleries, high profile criminal trials, rapes and wars, and Hollywood gosip weather and sports.

I think the media are bogus magicians, but thats another topic.

Are you upset because I posted that link on the second law of thermodynamics being broken after you said thermodynamics is an unbreakable law? Is that what this is about?

Big deal-no harm no foul. So you didn't know something. Science reserach and discovery is moving at such a fast clip, no one can keep up in all of the areas.

Free energy technology is such an exciting topic. What scares you about it swami?

I suppose you would rather discuss archaic religious superstition here. I thought free energy would be a refreshing change of pace for some.

Why do liberating ideas scare people in general?

I'm not afraid, I'm curious and intrigued.

Lets pretend it has not yet been developed and demonstrated by dozens of inventors.

Are you comfortable with discussing even probable theories?

I want to understand you since you are here almost daily. :heart:

Oh well, think, research, and discern for yourselves people.


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3464822 - 12/08/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I've been here and there.. sharpening up my reality manifesting skills as it were. Transcending/purging my vices and always trying to evolve and live in the present you know. Always a student where I need to learn and teacher where I've been and can offer some insight.

You need to teach your proteges not to be so condescending.
But I would be glad to spar with you if I ever find my way out west, which I'm sure I will. My new thing is tai chi chuan, which I feel will take me a lifetime or more to master. Then again, maybe not. I usually am a fast learner.

My take on free energy is that it would be a wonderful and glorious thing if/when released would change the world on many levels. Definitely future possibility, not exactly a current reality.. I think even if it did exist at this time, it would not be available to the masses, due to the dependency of the world economy on fossil fuels, among other things. I think the technology would be suppressed, unless some bold person(s)/groups who didn't care for their own welfare made a massive effort to distribute it freely to everyone. Such an invention would undoubtedly cause the collapse of the oil industry, and the many other industries that it feeds. Causing millions to lose their jobs, but in the long-term, creating a better future for our planet and all who reside on it.

I certainly wouldn't say that on the technical/mechanical level, such a thing could never exist, because we are in a time of great technological advancement, and what is considered impossible today may be considered a very possible reality when new information is presented tomorrow. I have a great faith in advancement in the fields of medicine and technology, and I am excited to see what's around the corner as far as new discoveries and breakthroughs.


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Re: Free Energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3464917 - 12/08/04 03:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

...shmagic...
I could locate no such word.

I have beleived free energy technology has been around for a loong time.
Your belief does not alter it's non-existence.

That's one site of hundreds out there.
Doesn't matter if there are a millions sites. Do me a favor: look up the fallacy of large numbers and tell me that you truly understand it.

People all around the globe are playing with it.
Correction: are playiing with the IDEA of it.

It's exciting to imagine it in global use.
Emotional response does not equate to any sort or reality.

What makes cheinere a con man?
Who knows? A bad childhood perhaps... I am not a pyschologist.

What is he conning people out of?
Is a $150 for a book a reasonable price? Would/did YOU buy it?

What do you know about him or his invention to support your claim that he is a con?
Simple. He has NO invention.

What do you know about all of the inventions and inventors of free energy technology out there for that matter?
I know that in a capitalist system. Ideas turn into reality, turn into meg-amounts of cash. According to some of these websites, "free energy" has been kept a "secret" for 80 years. R-i-g-h-t!

Please share it. I'll keep posting links here for you to refute with evidense, okay?
I am truly disappointed in you. After ALL this time, seems you still are unaware how the game is played: someone makes an amazing claim, it is up to THEM to support the claim; not the inverse.

Are you even personally interested in this stuff or are you just bored and nit picking for fun?
Nit picking? Look up "nit" please.

Do I think it would be all over the news?
There are many forms of news: Scientific American, Science Digest, Discover plus many peer-reviewed phsyics journals. Naturally you read what wasn't written (once again).

Are you upset because I posted that link on the second law of thermodynamics being broken after you said thermodynamics is an unbreakable law? Is that what this is about?
The article talked about AIDS, bombs and environmental issues. This has NO RELEVENCE to physics nor does my emotional state have any relevence. Your link was NOT WRTTEN by a PhD physicist. Try a better one.

Big deal-no harm no foul. So you didn't know something. Science reserach and discovery is moving at such a fast clip, no one can keep up in all of the areas.
Another meaningless personalism. Trust me you do NOT want to compare scientific educational credentials and accomplishments.

Free energy technology is such an exciting topic.
More emotionalism that does not support your contention.

What scares you about it swami?
Yet another false assumption. No wonder you are taken in by this the way you jump to erroneous conclusions.

I suppose you would rather discuss archaic religious superstition here.
Do you really believe that your fantasy of what I think adds ANYTHING at all to the discussion?

Why do liberating ideas scare people in general?
Whom are you addressing? Why do you attack when your pet idea is challenged instead of showing genuine evidence?


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Shroomism]
    #3464922 - 12/08/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You need to teach your proteges not to be so condescending.

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Re: Free Energy [Re: Shroomism]
    #3464927 - 12/08/04 03:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"I invented a "free energy" device years ago. I built two huge eletromagnets and hid them in stone walls on both sides of the highway. Every time a car went by it would cut the lines of flux and generate a current that I stored and used to power my house."

Haha, very clever idea :cool:


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3464942 - 12/08/04 04:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Change that to.. a little more sensitive


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Shroomism]
    #3464979 - 12/08/04 04:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Not contesting your choice of words. What proteges and methods am I teaching? I ask no one to emulate me or my style.


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3465017 - 12/08/04 04:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I maintain that free energy technology has been around for a loooooooooooooog time. Don't bother looking looooooooong up in the dictionary.

Geeeeeez, some of you would follow swami right off a cliff wouldn't you? LOL

It wouldn't even matter if he said that it was good manors to let you all go first. He'd be up there waving down saying bye bye, after all fools die just as quickly as they are born eh?

Who here would like to dispute for the record that free energy technology has not been around and in use for hundreds of years?


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Re: Free Energy [Re: Swami]
    #3465027 - 12/08/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Rumor is, the S&P equivalent of Dr. Dre & Eminem is Swami & SS7.



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