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S2845 passed today
    #3464122 - 12/08/04 01:04 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

This 'intelligence reform' bill was passed by the US Senate today by a vote of 336-75. SUPPOSEDLY (according to Alex Jones) this bill contains the Patriot Act 2 provisions as well as a provision for national ID cards (uh don't we already have those?). Can anyone confirm or deny that these provisions were in this bill?

Apparently this 400-some page bill was pushed through before most had a chance to read it, ala the PATRIOT Act.

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Re: S2845 passed today [Re: ]
    #3464580 - 12/08/04 02:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

S2845 passed the senate in early October; a similar bill that contained many provisions disagreeable to freedom loving people and that didn't fully impliment the recomendations of the 9-11 commission passed the house around the same time. The house version included national ID cards and heavy immigration restrictions, for example.

I beleive the bill that recently passed the house (yesterday) and the senate (today) is more similar to the senate version of the bill, and doesn't contain many trojan horses. Though, I could be wrong.

Here are articles on the subject:

from Oct., re house version of the bill:

Two sources w/ more up-to-date info.:

In any case, of course no one read it. Law makers never read the laws they sign into law. But, unlike the PATRIOT act, this law was the result of a long and open process of negotiation. It might not be ideal - many Republicans favor various big-brother initiatives - but it's no PATRIOT 2 (3?), as far as I can tell.

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Re: S2845 passed today [Re: ]
    #3464586 - 12/08/04 02:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Read it..


The punishment which the wise suffer, who refuse to take part in government, is to live under the government of worse men.

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Re: S2845 passed today [Re: phi1618]
    #3464779 - 12/08/04 03:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

So Alex Jones is either uninformed or a liar. That doesn't surprise me. Thanks for the info.

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Re: S2845 passed today [Re: ]
    #3464784 - 12/08/04 03:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If people haven't noticed Alex Jones is out to manipulate facts so it looks like Europe is plotting to take over the United States from the inside out. Though, his theories are possible it seems that the only thing he is doing is digging up stories and perverting them so as to make money off of his propaganda videos.


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