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Tweexican
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Sick of Jars
#3459566 - 12/07/04 12:29 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm fed up with jars. About a week ago I put an order into Mycobag for 10 large spawn bags and I got an impulse sealer off ebay for 20 bones.
I'm planning on using rye just like I prepare it for jars. I'm wondering though, how far do I fillup my bags? Anyone with experience?
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djred
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3459589 - 12/07/04 12:35 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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good idea..i bought some oven bags.turkey size fucking huge..well i want to soak my wbs then put into the bag then pc it for an hour half only cooking at 10 psi..but then if i do a bag grow it would take up my whole incubator..so my plan to do a bulk wbs grow is going to wait for another couple of weeks.. i would think maybe half way or so.. im sure you don't want to much might take to long to colonize
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3459597 - 12/07/04 12:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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This doesn't really pertain to bags, but if your sick of jars you should look at this and give it a try. It cuts out the whole step of jars and utilizes a gladware/ziploc container for both incubating and casing/fruiting. Check this out: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2955350/page//fpart/1/vc/1
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spliffmasta
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: atomic1]
#3459604 - 12/07/04 12:38 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where u from? Send me your jars =]
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Tweexican
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: djred]
#3459605 - 12/07/04 12:38 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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im going to do a g2g with some Burma jars that are about done. With that in mind, colonization time shouldn't be a problem . I just want to make sure I get the most out of each bag.
Anyone used the large spawn bags?
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spliffmasta
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3459629 - 12/07/04 12:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used large sized reynolds oven bags and got those to work, but never used the nicer bags. See if you can get ahold of agar, he's a bag pro.
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fresh313
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whats a good amount of grain to put in to maximize colonization?
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Tweexican
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: fresh313]
#3459688 - 12/07/04 12:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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fresh, I'm going to use half a quart jar of colonized rye/millet to spawn into the mycobags.
I'm guessing this ratio is a little overkill but I'm just looking for fast colonization. It is common knowledge that you can not only spawn with mycobags but germinate mycelium from spore inoculation as well. Hope that answered your question.
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spliffmasta
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3459703 - 12/07/04 01:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stamets says that G2G can be anywhere from 1:10 - 1:40, 1:40 being much less likely to succeed. But, it is reported that a 50% G2G transfer can be 100% colonized in 6-9 days. That's pretty damn easy and quick to double your spawn.
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Tweexican
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So, can anyone tell me how far I should fill the bags?
Again, they are the large spawn bags purchased from Mycobag.com. I'm going to turn this into a log for all of you log readers. I plan on using two large spawn bags to spawn 3 large tubs using eatyualive's double tub tech. Pictures and all.
What do you guys think though... poo/straw or just straight straw? Casing layer or no?
I'll go ahead and leave it up to the consensus, either way is fine with me. I just want to have some fun
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agar
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3459820 - 12/07/04 01:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is bag measurement? Is it a filterpatch bag?
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Tweexican
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: agar]
#3459831 - 12/07/04 01:24 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, its a filter patch spawn bag (large size)
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agar
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3459912 - 12/07/04 01:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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LOL, never bought from mycobag... so LARGE means nada to me.
I suppose they are about 21 high, 8 wide & 6 thick & filter patch is 3/4 up.
Rule of thumb, as much as you want, but don't obstruct filter patch.
Top of grain should stay about 1.5 to 2 inches below it
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: agar]
#3460052 - 12/07/04 02:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just bought my bag online filled about 25%
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agar
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3460086 - 12/07/04 02:20 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Forgot to add...... if you use large bags - near full of grains, raise PC time to 2 hours @ 15 psi. If your PC will do that. If it will not, go 90 minutes.
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Tweexican
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: agar]
#3461856 - 12/07/04 09:04 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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right on agar. The mycobag website says to pc for 2 hours. I'm thinking that's what i'll do.
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djred
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: Tweexican]
#3462040 - 12/07/04 09:40 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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im going for magash tek with the rubber maid tupper ware. they are made of poly something? im kinda clueless to the rest of the name..but it seems its going to work out nicely.. i have a couple of reynolds bags for cooking they say it can hold temps up to 350 + so im thinking about concern with bag's exploding? read post on the issues..i know agar from what i seen is the bag master..lol
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: djred]
#3462785 - 12/08/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
djred said: good idea..i bought some oven bags.turkey size fucking huge..well i want to soak my wbs then put into the bag then pc it for an hour half only cooking at 10 psi..but then if i do a bag grow it would take up my whole incubator..so my plan to do a bulk wbs grow is going to wait for another couple of weeks.. i would think maybe half way or so.. im sure you don't want to much might take to long to colonize
where do you get "oven bags". Wally world? And you can ask someone for "oven bags" and they'll know what you're talking about? I WANT SOME!
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Re: Sick of Jars [Re: smellycat]
#3462789 - 12/08/04 12:33 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, everyone at wal mart knows what an oven bag is, you cook turkeys in them. ask some old bitch where they are
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Mycobag expierience. On average I use 2 quarts per bag, I've done 4 quarts before, it works, add gypsum to avoid wet spot. 8 quarts will take you all the way up to the filter patch, so I suggest you not do it. Like I said I only do 2-4 quarts per bag, but at 35 cents a bag, i dont really care, not when each bag easily yields over an ounce.
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