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InvisibleSwami
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More Non-Teachings
    #3459404 - 12/07/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Whatever causes you the greatest pain in your life is what you should focus on. Understanding and remedying the source of suffering is the fastest way to grow spiritually.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459414 - 12/07/04 01:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Indeed.

"Life isn't perfect."

Then you have right there all the tools to make it so!


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459473 - 12/07/04 02:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I totally agree. You can run from yourself but you can't hide forever. Moving into the deoths of yourself and seeing whats there, and healing it with all those nifty tools like forgiveness, acceptance, understanding, unconditional love and compasion and a heary does of being wothy and deserving of feeling good as a right to be, can make for some quick spiritual growth indeed.

Running from, hiding, rejecting, denying, and repressing the self isn't living in your spirit.

I think a lot of people often misunderstand what it means to be a spiritual warrior. It has nothing to do with fighting evil or darkness. It has everything to do with having the courage to face the uglies with in and to overcome them with your weapons/tools and find your way back to the truth of your divine self.

In courage, they move for the divine truth in all to come into the light.

I realise you may have had a different meaning for what you said swami. This is just my interpretation of what it means to me and how I grow quickly.

When something in the external world pains you, its a sure sign that sort of pain is always deeply buried and hiding from yourself within yourself.


Some here don't understand how some of us don't see world suffering in a way that pains us. It's simply because we did the work to heal our own inner suffering and we appreciate and understand it in a new light. Its how we grow.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3459500 - 12/07/04 02:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It pains me deeply that I can't have the hot neighbor chick. I am going over right now to remedy that!

Oops! I just derailed my own thread.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459544 - 12/07/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yay! I agree.

Swami, you should more often incorporate this approach to your "teaching."


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459570 - 12/07/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There's a good example to work with weather you were joking or not.

Here's how I understand it generally speaking.

That sort of pain would be equated with buried pain of not being able to have what you want. Somewhere along the way, instead of reasoning with yourself why you can't have certain things, and being able to know, you do deserve to be happy and are worth happiness regardless then the person probably moved into feelings of beleiving they were underserving and not worthy and then, couldn't stand those feelings and they shoved them.

If you can accept that sometimes things didn't go a way we wish they would have and be okay with that and keep our sense of self esteem in tact, we stay self accepting.

If things don't go our way, sometimes its seen as being worng, that is bad, the bad must be blamed for doing something wrong, made to feel guilt and punished. We do this to ourselves subconsciously without even realising it.

Next time you catch yourself thinking something did not go your way, STOP in your tracks. Consider things indeed are going your way and you just can't recognise it. a part of the work is trusting in your higher self that is guiding and maneuvering behind the scenes to make sure everything is going the way the non ego soul/spirit self is intending to experience here.

That trust can take you to some grand realisations up the road.

Another part of the work is learning how to feel anywhere from content to fullfilled with ONLY what is inside of you not dependent on anyting external of you.

It takes a lot of practice to learn how to open up a link to source within and draw from it.

Again, this is just my interpretation of how it works and how these tools work from my experiences.

I'm still a work in progress. Now, having learned what I have to date, I enjoy the work and it goes much more quickly and smoothly.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3459579 - 12/07/04 02:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459706 - 12/07/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think i would rather transform my suffering, then wield it for my own ends  :stoned:


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3459718 - 12/07/04 03:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Zero7a1 said:
I think i would rather transform my suffering, then wield it for my own ends  :stoned:




Isn't that what he was saying to do? Suffering is selfish bitch. It takes away from your life and ability to share in joy with others.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3459720 - 12/07/04 03:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

a good simple approach that likely leads to complexity
(the neighbour chick hot thingy)


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3459754 - 12/07/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The hot neighbor, or lack thereof, is not the problem. The pain this conventional factor causes is.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3459755 - 12/07/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
a good simple approach that likely leads to complexity
(the neighbour chick hot thingy)




What are you saying, to heal pain from the past "he should simply walk up to her and say, "hey your HOT, I want to do you" as in, keep it simple orrrr is it to complex to take some time to get to know her and why it feels painful wanting her and not having her?

What was your message here Red?


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3459835 - 12/07/04 03:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am solving the problem and have a doctor's appointment to get castrated. No more physical longings. Hey, this is easy when you approach things the right way.  :crazy:


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459888 - 12/07/04 03:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If it's just physical longing, don't you live where prostitution is legal?

Maybe you tell yourself it's all physical, but it doesn't sound like it to me. Maybe if you just keep it physical, then you can avoid future pain if the emotional needs are not met.

Blah blah blah, I want to know what red was reffering too.

Maybe we need a different hypothetical to work with. You guys are different. At least most men claim, they can have sex and be detached emotionally. I can't relate to that.

This is turning into another thread topic. :crazy:


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3459926 - 12/07/04 03:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If it's just physical longing, don't you live where prostitution is legal?
Prostitution is highly illegal (but prevalent) in Las Vegas

Maybe you tell yourself it's all physical, but it doesn't sound like it to me.
Perhaps you are right. *Swami gets jar off shelf along with stapler and thread and begins painful reattachment process*

This is turning into another thread topic.
Don't they ALWAYS?


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459939 - 12/07/04 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I thought it was legal in Nevada, it's not?


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459946 - 12/07/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

nevermind


Edited by the_phoenix (12/07/04 03:52 PM)


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3459952 - 12/07/04 03:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oh

and its only painful if you dwell in the origin of the pain. If once identified, you quickly move into giving yourself all of the love, accepteance, comfort of warth, and compassion and allow yourself to begin to feel worthy and deserving with rights to have and to know and to be, it gets pretty easy and you start to feel better then ever.

Before ya know it, as you get the hang of it, you're whizzing through this stuff. What might have taken years, starts taking weeks, days and then minutes to transform.


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: the_phoenix]
    #3459959 - 12/07/04 03:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The problem signals a misunderstanding of self, a false belief that the self is not whole.

So then you have given up food? Food is merely a false belief that something needs to be added to the body to feel whole.

*Swami grabs a Pepsi and some Doritos*


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Re: More Non-Teachings [Re: Swami]
    #3459972 - 12/07/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I edited my post away because I didn't want to nag, but I guess I was too slow, hehe...

Compared to my younger self I certainly harbour less attachement to food. In time, I may indeed give it up completely, as others, it has been documented, have done for many years on end.

*grabs Trident gum--sugar free*


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