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Hey, I love the ratings system. That is so damn cool.
Anyway, I was wondering what the policy is on that when it comes to people saying bad shit about you. A poster made a false statement about me on one of my ratings and I am unable to edit it. I was wondering if a memeber of admin could do it for me. The comment I am looking to have removed is: has sex with young boys It's not too cool to have someone make such an inflammatory remark about you when they don't even know you. Thanks guys, this place rocks. LadMirer
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 gdman badger, badger,b    Registered: 12/10/02 Posts: 16,286 Loc: Dancing In the S |
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alright I bugged a bit, I deleted it, my apologies
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Got a question about a substance? Erowid might already have your answer! Have questions about the mushroom experience? The Tripper's FAQ may have your answer or someone else might have had your question before. I know up on the top you are seeing great sights, but down at the bottom we, too, should have rights. - Theodor Seuss Geisel Dr. Suess "I didn't come here to be easily understood" - Steve
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ZippoZ Knomadic  Registered: 06/17/03 Posts: 13,227 Loc: Pongyang, North |
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IN MY OPINION. you shouldnt mention your interestes in boys no this site.
delete your profile and start again, not mentioning the whole boylove thing. im all for fre speach and individual rights, this is an issue that im split on. also, you need to eat some psychadelic drugs, HONESTLY it cant hurt. -------------------- PEACE 
 zippoz
"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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 geokills ∙∙∙∙☼ º¿° ☼∙∙∙∙  Registered: 05/08/01 Posts: 24,814 Loc: city of angels 
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Thanks for removing your rating gdman. While we may not agree with one's life choices, any potentially illegal defamatory remarks in ratings are not tolerated. But for the most part LadMirer, our General Ratings are reserved for a person's honest opinion of another member. So in short, as long as you are not presenting a potential liability to another user, you can speak of them in your general rating for them as you choose.
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gdman badger, badger,b Registered: 12/10/02 Posts: 16,286 Loc: Dancing In the S |
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again I'm sorry, just was a little shocked but it's ok, I'm sure your alright, have a good one
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Thanks guys.
I understand the ratings system better now. If gdman would like to go back and give me the lowest rating as well as what he honestly thinks about me, I have absolutely no beef with that... of course, as long as it is not accusatory. Thank you zippoz for expressing your opinion. I respect that, but I have decided not to follow through on your advice. I am not ashamed of my love for boys and therefore, I see no reason to withhold that information. When given the opportunity to be myself, I take it. Since I am forced to hide my true self in everyday life, posting on an anonymous forum such as this is actually quite liberating. Oh, and geokills, YOU ROCK!
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gdman badger, badger,b Registered: 12/10/02 Posts: 16,286 Loc: Dancing In the S |
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naw it's ok, your seem like an ok guy
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Rose Devil's Advocate   Registered: 09/24/03 Posts: 22,530 Loc: Mod not God
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I don't think I've specifically stated my sexual prefrence on this website, nor have I had to. No shame here, yet I told nobody, not even in my first post at the Shroomery (you did) or in my profile (you did). Just post in the proper forums, but it seems you have no reason yo be here but to advertise your site, like you said in your first thread. Hell, 80-90% of your posts are about your attraction to young boys.
Something is fishy about all of this, and I don't like it. Ah well, just post in the proper forum, and don't expect much popularity. Oh, and read The Shroomery Mission Statement, and decide if this is really the best sight for you. p.s. I'm heterosexual, but don't tell my GF. 
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I hear you loud and clear, Cervantes. I totally understand how you have come to that conclusion.
I admit to being a bit overzealous initially. I will try to explain why. You have to understand that for you to say you are a heterosexual, it is no big deal. For me to come out in public and express my love for boys... well, I had better be anonymous or people are going to literally KILL me just for what's on my mind. It doesn't even matter that I have never done anything to hurt a boy, nor will I. So you see, I find it important to take the opportunity to be completely open about myself wherever it is safe to do so. That way people can actually have the experience of dealing with someone like myself, and hopefully they will realize that I'm not the child-raping monster the news media would have you believe about anyone and everyone with my attraction. So yes, it is important for me to make it known who I am. I'm sorry if it's more blatant and in-your-face than you'd like. I am not here to promote the website. I will leave the google link to it in my profile, but I will not mention it again unless I'm asked about it. I plan to just be myself and post on a wide variety of topics. I think part of the reason why a lot of my posts have to do with my attraction is because the very mentioning of it garners a reaction, and so it snowballs from there. I will read the mission statement. I missed it. Thanks for pointing that out. Now, I must get some sleep...
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Rose Devil's Advocate Registered: 09/24/03 Posts: 22,530 Loc: Mod not God
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May I suggest NAMBLA or your home site, as a place for such discussion? I imagine they have a forum or two that would suit your needs.
This is a shroom information site first and foremost. Please, respect that fact, as it will help keep unneeded drama to a minimum. Moderators dislike drama because DRAMA = EXTRA WORK (eg: this post... this thread... your banning... etc.). Something about this isn't sitting right with me still, perhaps it is the age of the average Shroomerite. Perhaps it is that you seem to be patting yourself on the back for coming out to a bunch of complete strangers (and getting banned for a day in the process). Your words ring true, but your actions do not seem to match the words. I think you are full of shit. There are places here where you can discuss your kinks, but those forums are also the places where you might be berated for your preferences. May I suggest the Physical and Mental Health Forum, where you will be relatively flame safe, and can discuss these things RIGHTFULLY within the context of the forum, and you will be protected, by the rules of the forum (and therefore, by the Moderators) when posting within that forum. Other than that, you only have The Pub, and you must be very careful in there. Nobody likes Drama magnets in The Pub. Be sure you are aware of the rules for EACH forum you post in. Your sexual preference is irrelevant unless you bring it up. It seems that you have been compelled to spread the word, and I trust that you will NOT recruit youngsters here. Free speech forums with a lot of young blood, make swell meeting spots (although, this sight is very much 18+). Either that, or you are completely full of shit, but I do sense a good degree of sincerity in your words. Still this whole situation is odd. Not completely changing your homepage... insisting on the google page instead, is not a way to quell drama, and an odd way to make peace. I still think you are full of shit. It seems your whole goal is to find out if this community will let you stay as a child molester and I don't like Shroomerites who cry wolf. It seems, there is only so much drama that this website will handle, and, as a n00b, it is always best to avoid drama completely, whenever you can. Your introduction to the community and your username will make this an uphill battle, I'm afraid, but you are free to try. I don't like to be leery towards you just because of your sexual preference, but, unfortunately (if you are being honest), you were born with a very unpopular sexual obsession... one that only invites trouble, drama and negativity in most contexts. I hope you quickly come to the realization, after your coming out, that this information is completely irrelevant in most contexts... unless you're Dr. Kinsey or Dr. Ruth. If your goal here is to integrate into a society as a ped, you may learn quickly, that even this virtual society isn't ready to tolerate your desires. However, we will try... until you fuck up again. I do suggest you learn how to integrate quickly, and if drama keeps following you around, delete your username (PM an Admin), re-register and try again, in a more discrete manor. This community is very welcoming... but your desires may bring up BAD MEMORIES in some Shroomery members. What is sexual (or a joke) to you, isn't remotely sexual to most of the children you fantasize about; nor is it sexual to most of the past victims of child molestation (especially YOUNG victims). Your desires are putrid and repugnant in the public eye. However, those desires are free to live within your imagination without any guilt. I suggest you do a better job with your IMAGINATION, pick your FAVORITE fantasies that COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAPPEN in real life. Fantasize about things that ARE BETTER THAN REAL LIFE. This will help you become content with your fantasies, while abstaining in real life. I also, suggest, once you figure out how to integrate into society, making some friends YOUR age. Child attraction is less of a disease, and more of a inability to TRUELY communicate with adults. You are right, communication is good. Once you are able to communicate, and LISTEN to others your own age, you will realize MOST people have kinks, and ADULTS are vastly better to LOVE and COMMUNICATE with, than little children, with disapproving parents. A psychologist is VITAL. Finally, I suggest tripping. Tripping explains the GREAT COMPROMISE OF LIFE. It may help reduce the tensions of passion. There are more important things than sex. For everybody. Children need parents, friends, teachers and SAFETY. They do not need sexual attraction. You can't possibly defend having sex with a child... but you certainly can attempt to defend being attracted to children. Thanks for listening, I hope you can quell the drama surrounding your life... or, if you are full of shit, I hope you decide to stop fucking with this community soon. -------------------- Fiddlesticks.
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Super_Blunt Candyman  Registered: 10/25/04 Posts: 3,140 |
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i like little boys!
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Rose Devil's Advocate Registered: 09/24/03 Posts: 22,530 Loc: Mod not God
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Just keep posting... I LOVE your sig!
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Super_Blunt Candyman Registered: 10/25/04 Posts: 3,140 |
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You asked for it
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40oz  Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 30,119 Loc: Sandy Eggo. Ca. |
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ew.
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wrestler_az PsiLLy BiLLy  Registered: 08/11/02 Posts: 13,688 Loc: day dreams of a mad man Last seen: 1 day, 8 hours |
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bouncing boobies > little boys
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Rose Devil's Advocate Registered: 09/24/03 Posts: 22,530 Loc: Mod not God
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I meant posting in general, not in this thread.
thanks
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Super_Blunt Candyman Registered: 10/25/04 Posts: 3,140 |
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ahh
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I know this post that I'm about to make isn't exactly on topic for the "Website Announcements and Feedback" section of the forum, but I just gotta reply to you, Cervantes.
Well, first of all, I do post on that 'home site' for discussion (I know nothing of NAMBLA except for what the acronym stands for). But I figured, why not post on a forum that isn't for perverts, and still be myself, ya know? I mean, what the christ, I'm not a bad guy. I wanted to find out if I could actually join an online community that isn't for perverts and be allowed to post there as myself. I began by searching in google using terms like ignorance, free speech, anything goes, etc... prettymuch looking for a place where they allow freedom to discuss ALL points of view, and many of the forums I found billed themselves as such. Well guess what? They were all fuckin' hypocrites. On each one of those forums, I was perma-banned within the first five minutes. So I was a little fuckin' pissed, 'cause I know that they're assuming that I'm some fuckin' child rapist fuckin' predator puke piece of shit. Which is really what's assumed about any man who is attracted to boys, and it just isn't fucking true! I guess I could go on and on about that, but I'm sure you don't wanna listen to it, so I'll stop right there. Anyway, I'm not here to create drama. I'm just here to be myself. I understand that just my being here and being myself may create drama on its own, but that's not my intention. Actually, I would much rather have it so that people didn't react the way they do to people like me. If people react in dramatic fashion to my posts, then I will do my best not to add to it. I will attempt to respond to those posts not unlike the instant responses of flowing water to the contours of the ground over which it flows. If it proves to be too much work for the mods, well then... they may ask me to leave. There can be a little trial period if you will... like when a kid gets a new pet and if he doesn't take care of it, then after a month, the pet goes away. So in the same scenario, if it doesn't work out--that is, me being this board's pet for a month--either because the board is having trouble taking care of me, or because the pet has begun shitting and pissing all over the place... well then I will leave peacefully if those in power wish me to do so. What is it about the average age of the shroomite that doesn't sit well with you? Is the average shroomite very young or something? I really have no idea, but I'm guessing that's the case by what you're saying. If you think I'm here to meet boys, then let me assure you, you have nothing to worry about. I would never meet ANYONE from here in person. Not that I think it wouldn't be cool to have some of you as my friend... but I obviously can't trust anyone on an anonymous forum. Someone could be acting all buddy buddy to me only to totally wreck me once they have me by the balls. Meeting boys on the net is not the way to go. As far as patting myself on the back for coming out to a bunch of strangers... I honestly don't see where I was patting myself on the back. If that's what you perceived, I respect that--but just know that I have no feelings of grandeur over what I have done. If anything, I'm humbled by being allowed to post here and speak my mind. I have an incredible amount of respect for that. You think I am full of shit. While I disagree with you, of course you have every right to believe that. I don't feel that my sexual preference is irrelevant. Everyone else may speak openly about anything they want to... what they're dreaming about... whether they had a shitty day... etc. My sexual preference is VERY relevant to those things... especially for someone like me who is villainized for his sexual preference. I thought that changing the link in my profile to a google link was a very good compromise. That way, nobody will unwittingly click on a link to that site, yet it is there if they are interested in a further understanding of how people like myself live their lives (which is not to say that we're all alike--it is a very diverse group). It's not like I'm forcing anyone to go there. I don't see what the problem is. You said it seems like my whole goal is to see if this community will let me stay as a child molester. I can tell you that without a doubt, that is not the case. First off, I'm not a child molester. Secondly, I can't really say I have a goal... I mean... goal sounds so... final. As if I'm going to wake up one morning and say, "Well! All done with the shroomery now! I've achieved my goal!" I don't find that anything in life is ever that cut and dried. Everything is constantly changing. Life is the journey, not some destination in the "future." The future is merely an illusion. I can't help the fact that some posters here were victims of abuse when they were younger. I am not to be held responsible for some other person's actions. Instead of causing them to have bad memories, I would hope that my presence will do them some good in realizing that not everyone with my attraction is like the person that took advantage of them. But whatever man... what happens happens. They gotta live their life, I gotta live mine. I can only worry about me and do my best. I'm not going to stay quiet out of fear of offending someone. If they are offended by something I said, then it is because they have allowed themselves to take it that way. Nothing I say here will be designed to intentionally get under anyone's skin. So you talk about my desires being putrid and repugnant in the public eye. That does not offend me... but let's explore this. Why do you think that is? I can totally understand why someone would be be against a man forcing a boy into having sex with him. I can totally understand people being disgusted with a man who doesn't respect a boy and reaches into his pants to diddle him without his consent. Those are things that I find putrid and repugnant as well. But... and I'm only speaking hypothetically here and I'm not condoning anything illegal. What if a boy is friends with a man... let's say the boy is oh... 12 years old. And let's say the man is attracted to this boy and they're good friends... they LOVE eachother.. and I'm talking true love. The man doesn't see the boy as a sex-object. He sees him as the individual that he is. He loves the boy's personality. He loves talking to the boy... listening to the boy, spending time with the boy... helping the boy through life's problems. The boy loves the man because he knows he can trust him with anything. ANYTHING! Because the boy knows that the man will love him unconditionally and will respect him NO MATTER WHAT. So naturally, the subject of sex is going to come up in this relationship. I'm not necessarily talking about sex between the man and the boy, but sex in general. And of course the man is going to share with the boy his life experience on the subject and try to point the boy in the right way.... for example--say the boy has a girlfriend and he made out with her and he wants to step it up a notch... the man may advise the boy to be careful not to knock her up so he doesn't get into a bad situation early in life. But what I'm getting at is... this relationship between the boy and the man is obviously not one where there is any manipulation going on. They friggin' love eachother... TRULY. They do things for eachother out of LOVE, not out of looking for an orgasm! So if this type of relationship exists, and the boy happens to desire his adult friend to give him a blowjob... THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT???? Of course, if someone were to find out, it would be disastrous because the boy would be made to feel that the whole thing was wrong. That his true feelings of love for the man were wrong. He would be told that the man took advantage of him and was using him for his body. Well fuck that! I've known a boy for 3 years now... he's fourteen. I have the same type of relationship as I described above EXCEPT that he would never want any part in a sexual relationship with a man. And you know what? Good for him! It's his fuckin' body, his fuckin' choice. If it would make him feel the least bit uncomfortable in doing something sexual with a man, then fuckin' A, he shouldn't do it. But guess what? There ARE boys out there who would ENJOY getting a blowjob from a man that they love and trust. And my question is... what the fuck is wrong with that--of course, other than societie's reaction that could cause the boy to feel guilt-ridden over it. I mean... feelings are feelings. Love is love. We ARE those feelings. You think there really is a YOU that's SEPARATE from what you feel? Then you're mistaken. You ARE your feelings. I gotta stop now, it's getting late. Sorry for another boylove post. I will eventually get to posting about other stuff. LadMirer
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Rose Devil's Advocate Registered: 09/24/03 Posts: 22,530 Loc: Mod not God
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Well, if ever there was a boylove thread...
Oh, and... Ok, poof, you're a ped. I won't accuse you of crying wolf again. 
However, I still suggest the Physical and Mental Health Forum for further (most... any... ) discussion you wish have on this particular topic, as it is the only true pertinant forum, and this thread has served its original purpose. I think the outline of your rights, and your response contained in this thread are valuable. They can be refrenced, if needed, in order to avoid conflict, or unnecissicary future discussion of this topic. You may also wish to use a link to your discussion in the P & M H Forum for the same purpose. All right, good luck, I won't stand in your way. -------------------- Fiddlesticks.
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Grizz Gnubobo is mypoppet!  Registered: 02/26/04 Posts: 18,676 Loc: Pulling Bobo's s |
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Quote: Having sex with underage children IS illegal. Quote: See above comment. Quote: As it would be, as - see above comment. Quote: Which would more than likely be true. Quote: God help you if you ever make it OTD. -------------------- Prisoner#1: Hanky doesn't send PMs to retards UncleLuke: That's not true. Hanky has sent me a total of 3 PMs.
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wrestler_az PsiLLy BiLLy Registered: 08/11/02 Posts: 13,688 Loc: day dreams of a mad man Last seen: 1 day, 8 hours |
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i hope you are just someones puppet and dont really fantasize about giving little kids blow jobs.
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geokills ∙∙∙∙☼ º¿° ☼∙∙∙∙ Registered: 05/08/01 Posts: 24,814 Loc: city of angels
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> I will eventually get to posting about other stuff.
I surely hope that you do. Cervantes is probably correct in that this subject is really best (only) suited for our Physical & Mental Health forum. Perhaps you could get away with such discussions in one of the off-topics, but please realize that if you persist in getting a significant population of our community rhiled up and disrupting on-topic threads with your own off-topic tangents, you will be banned from this community. I respect that all of us have our own beliefs, but if one begins to push or harp upon beliefs which are not welcome by others, well then that person will not be afforded the privilage of participating in our community. In short, feel free to enjoy our company, but don't try to advertise your own disposition which is admittedly not usual, simply for the sake of advertising. --------------------
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boxtop703 ThesaurusLinguae  Registered: 06/26/01 Posts: 5,011 |
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Umm, this poster is making me feel very uncomfortable and I'm sensing either "asshole puppet" or true pedophile and quite frankly I don't like either one. Even his name is inflammatory as if he's pushing it on us.
Don't get me wrong, people can be pedo's in their heart and NOT harm children and I really don't have a problem with that but I get the feeling this guy is "getting off" on this thread and every other thread that even mentions him or underage boys. This is brand new here at the shroomery and I don't like it. 
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boxtop703 ThesaurusLinguae Registered: 06/26/01 Posts: 5,011 |
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Btw, I hate seeming intolerant because in general I'm definitely not.
I don't know, tough call.
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boxtop703 ThesaurusLinguae Registered: 06/26/01 Posts: 5,011 |
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I feel so guilty for making such an intolerant post....fuck.
It's weird that we suddenly have to deal with this issue at the shroomery, that's all.
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muse_sick ĤŌĿŶĞЋ0$Ŧ   Registered: 12/15/03  Posts: 9,399 Loc: Giu La Testa |
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please ban him now, thanks.
there is no room for this he has gone out of his way to state an attraction for young boys he has no purpose here. ban him now and get it over with -------------------- 
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Super_Blunt Candyman Registered: 10/25/04 Posts: 3,140 |
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Who keeps talking about little boys <3 ?
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Anno Experimenter   Registered: 06/17/99 Posts: 24,168 Loc: my room Last seen: 2 months, 3 days |
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>he has no purpose here.
What exactly is your purpose here?
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Boom just a tester Registered: 06/16/04 Posts: 11,252 Loc: Cypress Creek |
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I bet he's a puppet...
LadAdmirer? Who the hell picks that as their name, and discusses his deeply disturbing man/boy love lifestyle...on his first post? And what brings a pedophile to a shroom community? Either way, boo to you.
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Super_Blunt Candyman Registered: 10/25/04 Posts: 3,140 |
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You would be surprised how many shroomery members are pedophiles
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Give the guy one shroom if you think he has no purpose/doesn't belong here.
No one will take him seriously if he's sitting there posting his pedophilic fantasies with one shroom, he will be merged into the collective troll consciousness.
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Dreamer987 The VerbalHerman  Registered: 04/15/03 Posts: 5,326 Loc: Texas Last seen: 17 years, 11 months |
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muse_sick ĤŌĿŶĞЋ0$Ŧ Registered: 12/15/03 Posts: 9,399 Loc: Giu La Testa |
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Quote: i particpate in many areas of this board, and the majority of my posts have been in cultivation forums i've helped many members both on the forums, via pm and on AIM I have traded, held contests and contributed looking through ladmirer's post history i did not see a single post that didn't mention something about young boys IMO there is no comparison, Anno I am shocked that you would say that. I thought you were the panopticon of the shroomery, taking in everything from afar --------------------
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Prisoner#1 Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!  Registered: 01/22/03 Posts: 193,665 Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutS |
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Quote: do we ban everyone that has made a comment of the nature, do we go after those belonging to groups or organizations that support or condone it.
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muse_sick ĤŌĿŶĞЋ0$Ŧ Registered: 12/15/03 Posts: 9,399 Loc: Giu La Testa |
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you ban anyone who repeatedly and knowingly condones and seeks approval of that sort of thing in a serious fashion, be they individuals or members of a group
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Prisoner#1 Even Dumber ThanAdvertized! Registered: 01/22/03 Posts: 193,665 Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutS |
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I agree that its an all to serious an issue, but in all fairness, look at
soem of the jokes and comments made in OTD... who is serious and who isnt, I even saw one today in which the phrase 'that would be funny' was used in referece to the killing and molestation of a young boy. where do we start with the banning
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Super_Blunt Candyman Registered: 10/25/04 Posts: 3,140 |
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muse_sick ĤŌĿŶĞЋ0$Ŧ Registered: 12/15/03 Posts: 9,399 Loc: Giu La Testa |
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that's what you guys are here for
to decide when context is appropriate if somebody makes a sick (and NOT funny) joke
like that in OTD, a mod such as yourself can check the context, be sure it is a joke and make sure the remark was appropriate that's why mods are here right? but if we honestly believe this person is a pedophile, he has no place here. read his post history his nick references pedophila, he has admitted on the board to being in a "relationship" with a 14 year old boy! all his posts have discussed his attraction for young boys and how it makes him feel like an outcast he is obviously either a sicko or a troll, and i am surprised no mod/admin consensus has been reached to this end yet to cervantes for the intial ban, but i support something a little longer lasting
this sort of poster will only draw unneeded attention, not to mention the fact that no matter how far removed from the norms of world culture the shroomery might be, we are not an island, and someone's claims here might lead to actions IRL he needs to be shown that there is no place in society that accepts the promotion of these kinds of things --------------------
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Well, directly or indirectly LadMirer has expressed his attraction to young boys in almost all of his posts here, and in his very first post he also admitted that he doesn't trip. In my humble opinion the purpose why he has joined this community is to seek approval to his sexual preference - paedophilia, homopaedosexuality in particular. Yes, Shroomery is a very tolerant community, we respect free speech etc. etc.
Although science has not yet answered the question about what causes paedophilia (I and many others tend to think it's pathological), I believe that even *if* a child could handle a sexual relationship with an adult that was mutually approved and not physically harmful, when he grows and learns about what has happened to him in context of general opinion, the guilt and shame about it may cause too much harm to his psyche. With this I condemn paedophilia, because it can cause nothing but harm and destroyed lives, both childs and paedophiles (has any of You *ever* heard a 'happy ending' paedophile love story?). I am sorry for You LadMirer, but You have a very serious problem and You should seek professional help. Despite what You may think or want to believe, "boy lover" is not a genetically predestined sexual orientation but a mental disorder caused by a complex of factors in early adolescence like feeling being different from other children, alienation, problems in relationship with parents, diminished or distorted masculinity or femininity, premature introduction to sexuality etc. etc. (I will hold to this as long as some modern day uberFreud proves me wrong.) I don't know how old You are, but this gender confusion and search of ones sexual identity has gone mainstream among teenagers nowadays. Some people find it to be the only way how to think of themselves as special and different from others. If You indeed are under 18, I suggest You chill the fuck out and find Yourself a nice hobby. So what are Your intentions joining The Shroomery? Looking for young boys to talk to? Unlikely. You have to be 18 to be a member of this community, and most members are older than that. Interested in fungi and/or psychedelics? I don't think so. You admitted Yourself You don't trip and You haven't mentioned fungi once. Spreading the word? Sorry man. Are You seeking help and support? Physical and Mental Health forum is a great place for that, if You *were* interested. Want to talk about paedophilia? There are enough "boy lover's" communities out there. Putting the human face on paedophilia? You're not doing very good at it either. Hell, look at Your nickname! -------------------- 
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Okay, you're right... wrong choice of words by me.
What I meant to say was that I'm not condoning breaking any laws as they stand... BUT, I AM questioning them and the views of society--which is perfectly all right to do. It's okay to discuss why you think something that is illegal SHOULD be legal. So when I say that a man who is in a loving relationship with a boy should be allowed to give the boy a blowjob if the boy truly wants it... well, there's nothing wrong with that. I haven't showed that I have broken the law, nor have I said I was going to. I have simply stated my dissatisfaction with the current system. I'm sure you all do that about mushrooms all the time. And I'm sure that you're thinking "but this is DIFFERENT you SICKO! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH BOYS HERE!!!!" And I really can't fault you for thinking that way. After all, sex is such a HORRIBLE thing. I couldn't possibly think of anything more traumatic than getting a blowjob from someone I love and trust. /sarcasm
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Prisoner#1 Even Dumber ThanAdvertized! Registered: 01/22/03 Posts: 193,665 Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutS |
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Quote: except that there is always someone that will take a comment a little too seriously, in some instances they will disregard the fact it was a joke and deliberatly blow it out of proportion, just as was done a short time ago now the person that made the joke is being ridiculed and persecuted by dozens of people simply because he made a tasteless joke and another user may not have liked it... that user has had many threats made against him, do we treat those as a joke as well, or due to the serious tone should they be treated as such. where then do we draw the line... Quote: I've read his post history, I'm still not convinced he's not a puppet aimed at attracting the attention of a few select members that have remained outspoken on the subject, I've heard the same about unneeded attention in reference to a few others, on this subject I definately agree, it simply has no place here. would we also ban anyone that claims to be muslim, catholic or a jesuit, these people may not openly condone the acts but its aparently widely practiced within their belief system...
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Prisoner#1 Even Dumber ThanAdvertized! Registered: 01/22/03 Posts: 193,665 Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutS |
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Quote: right, but this board is aimed at psychedelic fungi, not sex. the minimum age for this board is 18 years old, discussion of sex with minors is frowned upon and in the majority of instances chastized, regardless of the orientation. if you read the posts, its declaring your sexual preference in every post that has people concerned. I'm sure there are hundreds of other forums that would cater to your needs much better thant the shroomery, this site doesnt appear to be a pleasant place to ahve the conversation.
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Hey ivi,
Thanks for the thoughtful post. I agree with a few of your points. Quote: I couldn't agree with you more. Society is so fucked up on sex. It is a dirty and shameful act. In all reality, sex is just a natural human funtion. But once the human mind gets ahold of it, it changes it into some unnatural taboo thing. Suppose there was only one man on the entire planet... there was no history, no society... nothing but this man living alone on planet Earth. He had it all to himself... and one day during his travels, he happened upon an egg. And from this egg hatched a baby boy. And the man took great joy in finding this boy and bathed him and clothed him and provided him with shelter, food, water, and love. And as the boy grew, the bond between the boy and the man grew and they loved eachother. And the boy began discovering things about his body... that certain things felt good. And so the boy asked the man to do these things for him... like a massage, or a blowjob. Would you say that there is anything harmful in this relationship? Well, this type of relationship between men and boys exist on this planet today. And so now you have a society that doesn't understand the genuine love. Which is really something you can't refute. Love is love. Whether between a man and his girlfriend or wife, gay lovers, or a man and a boy. If the feeling is there between both individuals, then that's it. How can somebody say that love between so and so type of people is valid, but love between a man and a boy is sick and perverted? IT'S THE SAME GOD DAMN FEELING! And so, you're right. A boy could grow up and feel shame and guilt over what happened. Because society would make him feel that this love was in some way wrong, even though the love is no different from any other love. Love is love. Doesn't matter who's feeling it. Quote: Hahahaha, it's so laughable how you say that with such authority. Piss on it. Everything you said there is just a human invention--a concept. Reality is beyond concepts. Love is real. You can't explain love. It just is. You feel it. You know it. Once you try to describe it, the description fails. It becomes a distortion of reality. When you say that the love I have for boys is some mental deficiency, you are taking the True Love that I feel and twisting it into some man-made concept. Seek professional help? That's the LAST thing I'm gonna do. What the hell would I go and do that for? So they can expose me to all types of 'treatment' and tell me how I have to live my life? Hah! Fuck no, man. Okay, that is all on this subject for tonight. You guys keep getting me back on this topic. I was talking about homebrew in the pub before I came here and saw that you guys were still talking about boylove... geez. Do you really want to drop this or not?
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geokills ∙∙∙∙☼ º¿° ☼∙∙∙∙ Registered: 05/08/01 Posts: 24,814 Loc: city of angels
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/  If you look at the bottom of the main index. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ you will see View recent messages Past 24 hours Past 48 hours Past 7 days Not if you have to type them in. I type in shroomery.org/forums you type in shroomery.org/forums/ Which is shorter?  Oh look theres other forums click me I was looking around and noticed that the bottom of the main index page it says there are no birthdays today. Yet if you click on the calendar link and then on January 23 2004 it shows that it is Grovesk8ters Bday.Just thought it was courious and perhaps an error.Anno posted how to edit the host file at www.*************.org but the post was promptly deleted by an admin. I can only remember how to edit the file in XP, perhaps Anno or someone else can help with the other operating systems. In Windows XP go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and then open notepad. Drag and drop the hosts file into notepad and you should see something like this: # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol. # # For example: # # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host 127.0.0.1 localhost Add to the bottom line of text 69.28.174.165 www.shroomery.org and click save. 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