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    #3457144 - 12/06/04 11:15 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Zen Koan: "Where are you between your thoughts?"


Heaven is the space between two thoughts.


I think therefore I am not there.




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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3457188 - 12/06/04 11:22 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

I guess thinks are far to complicated.

Just go...

Just be...


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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: CherryBom]
    #3457213 - 12/06/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

"the mind thinks therefore "I" observe"

the location between two thoughts is not concrete like the concept might imply.

thoughts are not solitary and discrete bundles of brain function. they are intertwined workings that _cannot_ be observed through the mind itself - except in reference to the memory of thought much after the fact.

it's like a gradient of relative waves, and yet, nothing.

but the idea is nice :smile:

where are you "during" the "thoughts", and is it any different?


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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: deff]
    #3457267 - 12/06/04 11:33 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

The "between" is the "where" [even for the briefest of "Now
Moments"] and the return to it is what is referred to as "Stillness".

So Stillness was and is the "where" that you, I, we, never left but
for when you, I, we, are lost in the formless tool of mind/intellect, thought.



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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3457298 - 12/06/04 11:38 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

ok, that I agree with then :laugh:

it's sort of like

'why get out of bed' :smile:


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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3457329 - 12/06/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

The space between two thoughts is still a thought, because it must be thought about after the fact. Before that time, it did not exist, because you did not realize it and there was nothing there

The Tao that can be thought about is not the Tao. That is why philosophy is like observation in quantum mechanics- in the act of observing something that once was sacred, we change it into something normal and able to be defined. The beauty of it is lost

Before the concept of having space between thoughts was thought about, it may have been Heaven, but now everything is thoughts because of this thread  :mad:

It was inevitable though, even if you hadn't thought about nonthought, everyone probably would've eventually

A thought about nonthought is still a thought, after all


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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: Ravus]
    #3457345 - 12/06/04 11:45 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

too much linguistic logic

and very little true experience

FORGET ALL WORDS

and look again :smile:


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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: Ravus]
    #3457577 - 12/07/04 12:31 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

The space between two thoughts is still a thought, because it must be thought about after the fact.

If one has to speak about anything, one must first reduce it to a concept ? the alternative is to have primary experience, yet such experience cannot be communicated ? hence speech, concepts, etc. However, I am not speaking of the concept in and of itself, but That which the conceptual signpost points toward.

Before that time, it did not exist, because you did not realize it and there was nothing there

No-thing has primacy to every-thing; Stillness has primacy to such thoughts.

Stillness is the only thing in this world that has no form. But then, it is not really a thing, and it is not of this vvorld.



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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3458394 - 12/07/04 03:43 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I think, therefore I am overqualified to post here.  :grin:


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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: Ped]
    #3458942 - 12/07/04 11:29 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Bwahahaha!

That's one of the best posts I've seen in this forum for a long time. Kudos to Ped.




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Re: I think, therefore I am... [Re: Phred]
    #3459391 - 12/07/04 01:49 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

My e-mail address is iam.there.foreithink@gmail.com, but shortly after making it, I realized that "I am *there* for I think" is false, heh. :doh: :lol: Then I realized that "there" implies specific locality so, in the name of non-locality, it makes perfect sense. :smile:


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