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shrooms freshly picked or dryed?
    #3456246 - 12/06/04 08:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

are shrooms more potent dryed or freshly picked? i need some experienced shroomers input.

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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: dynastoned]
    #3456319 - 12/06/04 08:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Id say fresh but there are those that will dissagree


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: dynastoned]
    #3456323 - 12/06/04 08:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

There is no difference in potency. A shroom will contain the same amount of psilocybin whether wet or dry. You just will need to eat around 10x more if they're wet, because there is water in them, whereas if dry, they have no water.

In other words, 35 grams of wet shrooms is equivalent to and contains the same amount of psilocybin as the 3.5 grams of the same shrooms, only dried.


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: dblaney]
    #3456349 - 12/06/04 08:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

gram per gram a dry shroom is more potent. but really its the same potency that the some fresh one would be.


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: sui]
    #3456370 - 12/06/04 08:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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suimush said:
Id say fresh but there are those that will dissagree




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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: sui]
    #3456389 - 12/06/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

actually i wasnt disagreeing with you suimush, i was just talking some shit. its only true that gram for gram dry is more potent, because its dried out. but i rethought it and fresh is more potent in the end. cause 20 wet grams will trip you harder than 2 dry grams. and 20 wet=2 dry


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3456411 - 12/06/04 08:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I said fresh because there are two other active chemicals in mushies than Psilocybin, Psilocin and beocystin. As the mushies dry the Psilocin already present in the shroom degrades leaving Psilocybin and beocystin. But its not much of a difference iv heard.


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: sui]
    #3456436 - 12/06/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

just some extra info for you bud, psilocybin breaks down into psilocin once in the body. yeah ive heard that the content of beacystin doesnt effect you that much, but on the same note differant mushies (i.e. cubes vs. cyans) contain different amounts and they are supposed to be a different trip. so i dont know which one to believe. which do you think?


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3456477 - 12/06/04 09:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I know psilocybin breaks down into psilocin in you body. I wasnt talking about in you body i was talking about in a fresh shroom. Because psilocin degrades with drying eating a dry shroom u only get the psilocin your body converts the psilocybin into with fresh shrooms u get the psilocin that was in the shroom then the extra psilocin you body makes the psilocybin into.

As far as cubes v p. cyans the content of active chemicals in P. Cyans is higher than cubes(usually) so the trip is harder but it isnt a "different" trip


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: sui]
    #3456511 - 12/06/04 09:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

but some people say they can feel a diferance in the trip between the 2 outside of the more potent ps. content. i knew what you were talking about with drying shrooms and psilocin i was just trying to throw around some knowledge now somebody will read this and be like wow all kinds of good little bits of info. so i take it you dont believe the content of beacystin doesnt effect you differently. it was just a quick question. glad to hear your input.


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3456545 - 12/06/04 09:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I havent read that much on beocystin but i think that the different levels of the same chemicals in different species of psychoactive mushrooms produce different aspects of a trip to be more prevelent. IE if a cube has mor pilocybin than psilocin and even less beocystin the trip will have different aspects to it then a trip on a cube that has more pisilocin than psilocybin and more beocystin than psilocybin. If that makes any sense :lol: :mushroom2:


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: sui]
    #3456579 - 12/06/04 09:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

no it does bu ti think that the more psilocin that it would have would creat a faster onset because of the body not haveing to break it down. so yeah its probably a little of all. im sure soon some one with alot of knowledge will come along and straiten it out for us. we took over this thread.


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: dynastoned]
    #3456668 - 12/06/04 09:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

fresh, but not to any real noticable difference if the dried once are properly stored and ingested within a reasonable time frame (6 months from drying). I've eaten dried ones after a year with no real significant difference in potency.


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: newusername222]
    #3457675 - 12/07/04 12:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

here is a linky with some good info
http://www.magic-mushrooms.info/chemistry.htm


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: pshawny]
    #3458039 - 12/07/04 02:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

what about the people claiming the "visuals are more intense" on fresh? i would think you would either trip harder (visuals, body high, thoughts, etc) or you wouldnt, certain aspects of the trip wouldnt be affected, because the psilscin and psilocybe may be lost in the drying process, but why would it lose the "visual aspect"? just a theory, as i have never consumed fresh mush


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Re: shrooms freshly picked or dryed? [Re: syanesso]
    #3458088 - 12/07/04 02:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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