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Leeching horse poop
    #3455138 - 12/06/04 02:46 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Are there any leeching teks or anything? I just got a 30 gal Rubbermaid full of h0rse crap, and I need to get it leeched. Can I leech wet poo, or do I need to dry it then leech? I got a mix of old dried up apples, and some fresh poop too. The suns not out so I cant just lay it out in the sun, should I oven dry it?


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455161 - 12/06/04 02:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

<-- Searching for horse poop leeching teks too.

I'll letchu know if I find one.


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Silven]
    #3455252 - 12/06/04 03:11 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Cool, Ill search too. I know my poop needs leeched cause its fresh poop for the most part. It has allot of green plant material in it, the poop has a olive green tint to it. My poop is very fibrous too, nice and airy, I'm glad I chose horse rather than cow, it seems to me cows digest the grasses allot more efficiently than the horses, the horse poop has allot of un-digested grass and grain in the poop. :thumbup:


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455287 - 12/06/04 03:17 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

The grass and hay in horse poo is ok. its been thur the factory.
Leach for 24 hr. Rinse.Dry.Use.

Look up Poo 101


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: KaptKid]
    #3455297 - 12/06/04 03:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so it doesnt matter that its fresh poop, it will still leach right?

Leech for 24 hours=soak in water in a pillow case correct?


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: KaptKid]
    #3455302 - 12/06/04 03:20 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys what does "leach" mean? Someone could translate for a person over the hills and far away? :wink:


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3455363 - 12/06/04 03:30 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

You leech poop to get the ammonia out because ammonia stops the shrooms from growing, its just soaking it in water, then squeeze the water out.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455398 - 12/06/04 03:34 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Aah ok thanks. Actually Agar posted something like that. But there microorganisms took care of the ammonia, the compost/poo was heated if I recall correct.

Hmmz will look it up...


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3455406 - 12/06/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Yea could someone explain or link to an explanation of the process and its purpose?

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3455418 - 12/06/04 03:37 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)



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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455435 - 12/06/04 03:39 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Does not matter if fresh.All of mine is is fresh.A good 24 hr soak and real good rinse.No problems so far.


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: KaptKid]
    #3455442 - 12/06/04 03:41 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Do you mix yours with soaked wheat straw, or just use poop?
I think mine has enough grass material that it dont even really need the straw, but I want my bulk to colonize asap so it wont contam easy.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455461 - 12/06/04 03:44 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I don't want to use straw at all. There has to be some soit of aeration substitute. What about some pressure cooked beans?

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455463 - 12/06/04 03:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Ah ok, Agar was more explaining the making of compost in  THIS  thread.

Which I am gonna try sooner or later, but first must learn how to properly make grainspawn.. :lol:


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Re: Leeching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455568 - 12/06/04 04:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)


BIG TUB, added horse manure, straw & water

Added WEIGHT to sink straw

Let soak as long as you wish, drain on screen (or whatever).

Sun dry until moisture content is good (not dripping - a lot).

Bag or turkey pan pasturize in oven @ 175F, a few hours.

Allow to cool to room temp.

Adjust moisture content (as needed) & your ready to GO :thumbup:


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Re: Leeching horse poop [Re: agar]
    #3455583 - 12/06/04 04:11 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Do you chop your straw to 1-3 inch pieces as suggested?


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Leeching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455588 - 12/06/04 04:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Do you chop your straw to 1-3 inch pieces as suggested?




Yes


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Re: Leeching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3455668 - 12/06/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I use an ELETRIC HEDGE TRIMMER to downsize straw. :thumbup:

But, don't go to any great effort, in doing so.

If your in Farm land, find someone with commercial size straw chopper & get jiggy with it, down to any size you want.




Large amounts of chopped straw storage is a PITA. Had giant cardboard boxes full & stacked in garage.

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3456303 - 12/06/04 06:24 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I leach the poo 1st.Then dry.Then mix with straw then pasturize.


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: KaptKid]
    #3456357 - 12/06/04 06:37 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

if ya have old poo like me no leaching required..what i'm shooting for is throw my poo straw into a oven bag i just bought. add some water check for water content make sure everyhting looks good then i was going to use my pc w/o the lid to steam heat the bag to around correct temps for pasturize..160 to 180

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Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: djred]
    #3689300 - 01/27/05 04:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The only problem about the leaching tek ( http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/24375 ) is that it says this:

"if it?s fresh poo, it needs to be leached and can also be dried. pick off any rocks and foreign matter whether fresh or dry: leaching is just soaking out the ammonia from animal urine - some farm animals have worse manners than rugby fans, and will piss and shit down their legs with gay abandon. You don?t need to bother with old poo, as it?ll have probably been leached by the rain. Soak the poo in water for about 24 hours and then drain it good.

some dry it out on a tarp in the sun/air, and some even use a box with a fan. don?t use an oven - think of the people who share the oven! it?s a good idea to break the poo up as it dries. To speed up the drying, you could break it up into small pieces at least the size of a golf ball, and break a few open every now and then to check to see what the moisture level inside the poo is like."

This says absolutely nothing about using a pillow case or anything like that. It just says "soak 24 hrs...then drain" with zero details. I got a big pile of fresh horse poo, but if I just try and soak it loose in water, it will dissolve/turn to mud and I'll lose a ton when I drain it.

Is a pillow case soak the only option to leach??? Please help.

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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: ricelicker]
    #3689324 - 01/27/05 04:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

And now I find this conversation between Hamurabi and George Castanza:

"hi guys. i have a store bought composted manure. does it need to be leached firstly?
leaching= i put it in a container full of water and then drain it?" -Hamurabi

"no ...just bake it at 170F for 6-12 hours and spawn" -George

You GOTTA love the contradictions......

What am I supposed to think???????


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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: ricelicker]
    #3689335 - 01/27/05 04:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

No contradiction.
Store bought manure is de-amonianized (lol). Cause plants dont like it either. So it dont need leeching.

I soak in a bucket and pour and drain after 24 hours, push and squeeze etc etc.. ;P

A pillow case or old sweater is easier!


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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3690294 - 01/27/05 07:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

OK I see the difference.

TD put roughly 15 cups fresh horse poo loose in water and basically ended up with dark brown water from what it looks like. :smile:

Hopefully when he strains it, he will be able to retain most of the poop.

I'll do a search but I'm wondering what temp the water should be or if it matters.....

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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: ricelicker]
    #3692275 - 01/28/05 03:12 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I soaked outside temps were 50-60 at that time. No problem, I dont think temp matters, much.

Next time I will catch some of the drainage, poo-tea, for dunking and soaking! :laugh:


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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3692667 - 01/28/05 08:31 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Poo tea is great for cakes and soaking. :thumbup:


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: KaptKid]
    #3692947 - 01/28/05 10:14 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

sorry to resurrect an old thread, but must store-bought cow manure be leeched of it's ammonia or can i past/sterilize it "as is?"


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: psilocyben]
    #3693099 - 01/28/05 10:57 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

jeses psilocyben 4 posts ago that Q was answered!


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: psilocyben]
    #3693101 - 01/28/05 10:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

If its amonia free you mean? If theres no amonia, no need to be leeched...this was covered just a few posts up, did you bother to read it first? If it has amonia then of course it must be leeched..


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3693174 - 01/28/05 11:14 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i scanned over it. sorry guys, i didn't notice it.


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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3720342 - 02/02/05 05:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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A pillow case or old sweater is easier!




OK so TD finally got an old pillow case. He filled it with fresh poop and submerged it in his bathtub. All the water turned SO dark brown! Is he doing something wrong? Does he need to squeeze and massage the pillowcase in the water to properly leach or can he just let it sit?

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: ricelicker]
    #3720348 - 02/02/05 05:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3720355 - 02/02/05 05:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I'll assume that means that the water SHOULD turn dark brown and that letting it sit is A OK.


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Re: Sorry to bump this but I have a current question [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3720360 - 02/02/05 05:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Did not massage my poo, just rinsed and drained once or 2 times. But then I let it dry a week or 2. Still was moist as hell but wanted to be sure that the ammonia was gone.
So just me you propably are fine after a good leech.

The dark brown is normal, it is the poo-tea! If no ammonia in it, great to dunk and soak in! :laugh:


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: ricelicker]
    #3720364 - 02/02/05 06:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah let it sit. After 24 hours give it one quick rinse, drain it.


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3720376 - 02/02/05 06:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

>>If no ammonia in it

I assume it does. How would you know if it doesn't?


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: ricelicker]
    #3720383 - 02/02/05 06:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

By the smell! Ammonia has a "sharp" smell the smell of horsepiss... :lol:


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3720390 - 02/02/05 06:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I'll have to start sniffing/inhaling around it a lot more. I tend to hold my breath.


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Re: Leaching horse poop [Re: ricelicker]
    #3720413 - 02/02/05 06:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

lol
when the poo is allright it hardly smells at all, I smell the straw more then the poo.

and now I call it a day its been 2.15 3 february!

Good luck with the poo licker! :laugh:

Lol poo-licker, will we ever see that nick here? :wink:

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