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InvisibleAnnapurna1
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experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??...
    #3454528 - 12/06/04 12:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

boston herald...
american prospect...

and im willing to bet that if and when this does come about..the political result will be more right-wing radicalism..given that rove can spin it off on liberals or "the terrorists" and sell the far right as the best protection...depending on the timing this might in turn lead to a 3rd term for bush and possibly more...

do you agree or disagree..or what do you think will happen if the links come true?...


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3454736 - 12/06/04 12:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
boston herald...
american prospect...

and im willing to bet that if and when this does come about..the political result will be more right-wing radicalism..given that rove can spin it off on liberals or "the terrorists" and sell the far right as the best protection...depending on the timing this might in turn lead to a 3rd term for bush and possibly more...

do you agree or disagree..or what do you think will happen if the links come true?...




I have to agree with what the articles say. The economic fall of this country is inevitable. Much like every society in history, the largest and strongest always fall somehow; now, it is just a matter of time. When this happens (depending on how hard we fall) I will most likely find a more stable country to try and get citizenship in. However, the problem we are facing, which these articles talk about, can be solved in a variety of ways. We discussed this in my economics class last year. I dont remember off the top of my head the ways we discussed, but I am sure that someone with a more economic education can give you a few ways. The only problem is that Bush is in office so a lot of the solutions wont be put into action because they dont benefit him.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3454748 - 12/06/04 12:54 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

did he write that book called " the great depression of 1990" j/k

i do wonder how long we can sustain this debt.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3454765 - 12/06/04 12:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

raise interest rates.. that would help the u.s. but fuck people with adj. rate loans.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3455193 - 12/06/04 02:59 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

The Government is also in debt, the taxpayer will have to pay for the rate rise also.

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3455836 - 12/06/04 04:54 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

He says here the USA is expected to grow in 2005 and 2006, interspersed with his pessimistic remarks.

http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html


Note the part that says:

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In that case, Europe would continue to bear the brunt of a falling dollar, heightening the possibility of trade frictions between Europe and Asia.




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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3456030 - 12/06/04 05:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Funny you should post this.

i just spent like an hour trying to convince my friend that this shit was gonna happen eventually and that is why I am leaving the USA and the money system in general...

I definitely think it is bound to happen, sooner or later..

I don't wanna have everything invested when shit hits the fan...so I'm going to live for myself...self-sufficiency- farming and shit.

No joke....this economy = teh suxx.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Teragon]
    #3456757 - 12/06/04 08:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't you live in the forest? TREEHUGGER


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: downforpot]
    #3457459 - 12/06/04 10:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Taken from a 2000 interview with a high ranking ex-Illuminati member:
Quote:


Want to hear the end of the world scenario the Illuminati taught me? It was cult propaganda, but this is how they believed the New Order would be ushered in:
There will be continued conflict in the mideast, with a severe threat of nuclear war being the culmination of these hostilities. An economic collapse that will devastate the economy of the US and Europe, much like the great depression. One reason that our economy continues limping along is the artificial supports that the Federal Reserve had given it, manipulating interest rates, etc. But one day, this won't work (or this leverage will be withdrawn on purpose) and the next great depression will hit. The government will call in its bonds and loans, and credit card debts will be called in. There will be massive bankruptcies nationwide. Europe will stabilize first,and Germany, France and England (surprise) will have the strongest economies, and will institute through the UN an international currency. Japan will also pull out, although their economy will be weakened. Peacekeeping forces will be sent out by the UN and local
bases to prevent riots. The leaders will reveal themselves, and people will be asked to make a pledge of loyalty during a time of chaos and financial devastation.




With the current state of affairs, sounds very scary....

Edited by DNKYD (12/07/04 08:54 AM)

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: downforpot]
    #3459932 - 12/07/04 01:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

downforpot said:
Why don't you live in the forest? TREEHUGGER




and whats teh problem with this? 100 years ago "we" were doing this, not time to get on our high horses yet.


and to the article. if people dont agree with it they will either do somthing or be lazy drones and bend over...again. eitehr way its gonan come down to the people to change it if it does happen. dont expect them to take themselves outa office...


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3459953 - 12/07/04 01:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i believe that the most significant event in the history of the united states will occur during our lifetimes.

something is going to give before long.

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: ]
    #3460343 - 12/07/04 03:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

the Chinese curse. May you live in interesting times.


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3460629 - 12/07/04 04:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I thought that was an Irish curse????? Fuckers steal our shit all the time, Hic, fuck it I don't care, gimme another, there, Coleen. Atta girl, god I love your tits.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059684 - 03/03/11 12:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I thought that was an Irish curse?????  Fuckers steal our shit all the time, Hic, fuck it I don't care, gimme another, there, Coleen.    Atta girl, god I love your tits.



:aweface:

Hells yeah!!  Every Irish person I've met was drunk and horny! :laugh2:

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: MushyHobo]
    #14059764 - 03/03/11 12:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Why are we getting a rash of Newbs resurrecting ancient texts?  6 years?  How the fuck do they even find them?


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059769 - 03/03/11 12:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Magickal powerz :crazy2:


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059771 - 03/03/11 12:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It's a conspiracy to bug the shit out of ya. :lol:


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Icelander]
    #14059794 - 03/03/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It's gotta take a lot of work.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059814 - 03/03/11 12:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Seems like it already has.. Just you posting a question about it shows you already are.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Friskies]
    #14059871 - 03/03/11 12:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Friskies said:
Seems like it already has.. Just you posting a question about it shows you already are.



:rofl2:

I been smacking dumbasses around with abandon for several years now.  I aint going away.  You probably will soon, though.

Did you notice that warning when you resurrected the ancient scroll?  I didn't put it there.  It was for the purposes of preventing annoying nitwits from doing what annoying nitwits do.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Icelander]
    #14059873 - 03/03/11 12:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yet some topics remain current.

Let’s get real. The U.S. is bankrupt. Neither spending more nor taxing less will help the country pay its bills.

What it can and must do is radically simplify its tax, health-care, retirement and financial systems, each of which is a complete mess. But this is the good news. It means they can each be redesigned to achieve their legitimate purposes at much lower cost and, in the process, revitalize the economy.

Last month, the International Monetary Fund released its annual review of U.S. economic policy. Its summary contained these bland words about U.S. fiscal policy: “Directors welcomed the authorities’ commitment to fiscal stabilization, but noted that a larger than budgeted adjustment would be required to stabilize debt-to-GDP.”

But delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010 Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-11/u-s-is-bankrupt-and-we-don-t-even-know-commentary-by-laurence-kotlikoff.html

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: TheThinker]
    #14059882 - 03/03/11 12:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The US is not bankrupt.  Many governments in the US are.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059888 - 03/03/11 12:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
The US is not bankrupt.  Many governments in the US are.






Head/sand

Good luck with that.

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: TheThinker]
    #14059893 - 03/03/11 12:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Oh wait...

How much have we borrowed from other countries? I forgot....


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Friskies]
    #14059911 - 03/03/11 12:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Friskies said:
Oh wait...

How much have we borrowed from other countries? I forgot....



So what?


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059921 - 03/03/11 12:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

/facepalm


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Friskies]
    #14059931 - 03/03/11 01:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059973 - 03/03/11 01:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Did you notice that warning when you resurrected the ancient scroll?  I didn't put it there.  It was for the purposes of preventing annoying nitwits from doing what annoying nitwits do.




Who are you calling an annoying nitwit?  I thought there was a policy against flaming?

Anyway, I don't get why you personally don't like old threads... I don't get why searching for older stuff I find interesting is suddenly grounds to sniggle me out..
:dontspillme:

..this aggro is getting me down, time to smoke some yoda.  Thanks, bud.

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: MushyHobo]
    #14060027 - 03/03/11 01:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MushyHobo said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Did you notice that warning when you resurrected the ancient scroll?  I didn't put it there.  It was for the purposes of preventing annoying nitwits from doing what annoying nitwits do.




Who are you calling an annoying nitwit?  I thought there was a policy against flaming?




:rofl2:I didn't say you were, but if the shoe fits.......
Quote:



Anyway, I don't get why you personally don't like old threads... I don't get why searching for older stuff I find interesting is suddenly grounds to sniggle me out..
:dontspillme:

..this aggro is getting me down, time to smoke some yoda.  Thanks, bud.




It isn't me personally.  I don't much mind that you take the time to search my 10,000 politics posts, nor do I regret writing anything you might resurrect.  Like I fucking said, I didn't make the warning.


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14064461 - 03/04/11 02:30 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
The US is not bankrupt.  Many governments in the US are.




Yes sir.  People don't get that.  (And it always seems to be the commies.  IMAGINE THAT!)

As far as Irish tits go, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.  Irish girls have the BEST tits on earth.  Back when I was in the service, I passed through Ireland on my way home for leave.  I'm not going to say what happened there, but there is probably a SMALL ARMY of Irish kids who could claim me as their dad.  Know what I'm saying?  I screwed every daughter of Eire in sight! Those are some of my BEST memories.

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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Screaming Eagle]
    #14064846 - 03/04/11 06:41 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Those are someone else's memories.:satansmoking:


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Re: experts predict US economic meltdown == bush 3rd term??... [Re: Icelander]
    #14064921 - 03/04/11 07:13 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Those are someone else's memories.:satansmoking:



They are mine. Though, there won't be any kids when I go back.

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