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Cold shock casing?
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Am I supposed to be cold shocking my casing by putting them in the fridge? I haven't been doing that, but should I. I know its recomended for cakes, but what about cases?

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ChinaBoy]
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Afoaf read from many sources that you are supposed to put the casing into the incubator after you make it. Afoaf believes cold shocking is used to induce pinning. However, afoaf not read that cold shocking is really necessary for casing. Just drop in temp to around 72F, fresh air exchange, and put in an environment with humidity around 92-95%

Edited by madsickpenguin (01/26/05 12:12 PM)

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: madsickpenguin]
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Anyone else?

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ChinaBoy]
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a friend always dunks/shocks in fridge over nite between flushes....


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ChinaBoy]
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http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23452

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: Pinhead]
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Cold shocking (in the fridge) has little effect with cubies (fact) it will definitely help certain cubie strains pin more prolifically but it will also stall growth slightly so expect a day or two delay in fruiting times :lol: Most cases your temp drop of 10F. from incubation to fruiting is all the "cold shock" needed :wink: Dunking is best done in the fridge this slows bacterial growth thats one reason we put them (cakes) in the fridge when dunking. I do not recommend dunking casings as #1 It's not necessary if you manage your water delivery properly. It is advantagous to dunk BRF cakes that will be used to make casings but whole grains really don't benefit as much all your really doing is stalling your casing for a couple of days and making a little extra work for a possible minute increase in yield. Mushrooms really don't like change by cold shocking casings between flushes your only really stalling things as your next flush pins are already set and all that is really important now is to let the myc digest some more substrate in order to build and store energy need to set forth the next flush it's very simply actually if you think like myc and cold shocking simply inhibits this process. GL guys, Hopefully you'll come away form this with a little better understanding of mycology 101.


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: hyphae]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ca5#Post3451776

as stupid as i feel i disagree with hyphae ( who knows a shitload more than me and then some) but that is my post it is an experiment i did with 4 pint G2G brazillian jars cased in 2 casings 2 pints in each i allowed them to flush once then i simply recased one and the other i dunked and cold shocked for 12 hours then recased and there is a huge difference in yeild for me but hey to each his own

-mike

and again sorry for disagreeing with you hyphae because i respect very much what you have to say


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: phantasm]
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How long should i expect to wait between flushes anyway?

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ChinaBoy]
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5-7 days is normal but can be as long as 14 days

-mike


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: phantasm]
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Well afoaf of mine doesn't cold shock. He just puts the casings in the incubator for 2 to 3 days, patches - lets the rest catch up until totally even, then throws it in the fruiting chamber. Its worked fine so far....


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: AnonymousNewbie]
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Booo, I gotta think that cold shocking never hurts anything and can't do anything but help get a nice pinset and is so easy...I say do that shit.

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ChinaBoy]
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Cold shocking sends a message to your favorite fungus. It understands. Here's the message;

Hey! That was a really cold autumn day! Winter is coming, but it's warm now. Last chance to reproduce this year. Get it up!

That's the theory anyway. Some do, some don't. See what works for you.


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ticktock]
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No shit! That's EXACTLY it. Why wouldn't people cold shock?

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: phantasm]
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You guys don't get it cold shocking between flushes is redundant your pinset for the most part was created in your initial pinset after incubating, after that it is generative growth only. You guys can think what you want but pick up a book and readup on a mushrooms life cycle and parameters. Cold shocking between flushes only slows things up this is very basic myco 101 FYI phantasm think about it what you did was distroy your initial pinset that created more than just your first flush (you have much to learn :wink: ) NOW the myc needs to expend more energy running the casing AND pin again all while being in temps that are not optimum for vegetative growth :wink: of course that one will fall far behind and it would have fallen even further behind if you would have simply harvested the one patched soaked down and let nature do it's thing. I do not mean to disrespect your opinion but thats all it is your opinion and some others who don't quite understand mycology YET!. Again GL guys and keep an open mind it will get you alot further :wink:

I see you said you recased both? the only time a person wants to recase is after scratching an overlayed casing (fact). Proper water delivery is what really keeps the flushes going along with close to optimum parameters. I can just hear the myc saying oh no not again we're getting so tired of having to run that damn casing AGAIN we just want to fruit! :frown:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: hyphae]
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Hi Hyphae,

You are quite right. I did not mean to recommend cold shocking between flushes. It might have read like that. I only meant to explain why we shock in the first place.


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Re: Cold shock casing? [Re: ticktock]
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The 10F. drop in temps is all cubies need FYI that is the "cold shock" as far as cubies are concerned. I find fridge dunking keeps contams down and does drop the core temp of cakes quicker so that they can be placed in the chambers quicker. Initial pinsetting is where your yields will come from. GL ticktock and mike, scool :wink:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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