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acid/mushrooms = soft drug?
    #3448543 - 12/05/04 03:03 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

would you say acid was a soft drug or a hard drug?

seeing as mj is a soft drug, and crack is a hard drug, i would say it was soft, would this be correct?


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3448547 - 12/05/04 03:03 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

also, what about mdma? hard or soft?


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3448559 - 12/05/04 03:08 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

I can comment on sacred mushrooms.

You will learn magic.

It will change all of reality you experience.

You can never turn back. Or metaphorically not shut the opened door ways of experience.

Beware.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3448574 - 12/05/04 03:15 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

Labelling drugs as soft/hard is something "sober" people do.

To me a drug is a drug, it is neither hard nor soft.

Also, labelling them as such is ignorant because the experiences attained through the use of the drugs are very subjective. They could be considered hard to some people and soft to others.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3448704 - 12/05/04 04:19 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

there is a potential to abuse anything, however drugs like acid, mushrooms, and marijuana are not very physically addicting, if at all...i know this is subjective, but the science shows you don't build a dependency on these like you do with crack, meth, coke, etc...so it that context, i would not consider psychadelics to be hard drugs.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3449246 - 12/05/04 11:09 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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Labelling drugs as soft/hard is something "sober" people do.

To me a drug is a drug, it is neither hard nor soft.

Also, labelling them as such is ignorant because the experiences attained through the use of the drugs are very subjective. They could be considered hard to some people and soft to others.




yea i agree, but the thing is i'm talking to people on a christian board about the legalization of mj and what not, so i have to bring myself down to a sober persons level of understanding of drugs, what you said is basicly what i told them...that logic kinda just went over there heads i think.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3449357 - 12/05/04 11:38 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Define hard and soft. I've never really understood the terms.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3449655 - 12/05/04 12:59 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

There is no drug that comes close to LSD (for the most part). I would consider LSD a very "hard" drug. It is not very addictive tho which a somthing people refer to as being a "hard drug". Its all about your definition.

ALl i know is H or crack isnt going to to change your thought process like a heft dose of lsd will.


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    #3449707 - 12/05/04 01:16 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: freakygurl]
    #3449756 - 12/05/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

If one were to classify them into categories like that. I'd say acid and shrooms are DEFINETLY hard drugs. I mean some people freak out so bad their whole entire lives are completely changed. I know the purpose of hallucinogens is enlightenment and self understanding but some people aren't ready for the journey they're about to take. Anything that is gonna put you in a frame of mind that you don't even know who you are anymore is definetly not to be messed around with without some respect....or in another words HARD.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: vandago]
    #3449793 - 12/05/04 01:38 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

The Dutch law made the first and only official distinction between hard and soft drugs. Hard drugs are drugs that have 'unacceptable health risks' and soft drugs are all cannabis products.

LSD, Psilocybin and Psilocin are hard drugs according to the dutch law.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: Annom]
    #3449799 - 12/05/04 01:41 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

and what about mdma?


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: Annom]
    #3449810 - 12/05/04 01:43 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

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The Dutch law made the first and only official distinction between hard and soft drugs. Hard drugs are drugs that have 'unacceptable health risks' and soft drugs are all cannabis products.

LSD, Psilocybin and Psilocin are hard drugs according to the dutch law.




i thought shrooms were tolerated there?


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3449860 - 12/05/04 01:54 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

MDMA is a hard drug too, but use of all drugs is legal in Holland and you can test your Ecstasy pills by a government sponsored lab.

Mushrooms are totally legal!

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Psilocybe Mushrooms are legal in the Netherlands. Psilocybin and Psilocin fall under the first opium act(drugs with unacceptable risks) but the supreme court in Holland decided that natural plants containing Psilocybin aren't illegal because they grow in nature. Federal court also decided that dried mushrooms are illegal because they are prepared to eat for the Psilocybin and Psilocin. Dried mushrooms are illegal in theory, but most Smartshops still sell them. Fresh and dried mushrooms can be bought in special shops (?Smartshops?). Growing Psilocybe mushrooms is legal. The use of all drugs is legal in Holland.




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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: Annom]
    #3449895 - 12/05/04 02:00 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

A government research gave the following result about Psilocybe mushrooms:

"This drug is not associated with physical or psychological dependency, acute toxicity is largely limited to possible panic and anxiety attacks and, in terms of chronic toxicity, the worst that can happen are flashbacks. Consequently, the use of paddos (hallucinogenic mushrooms) does not, on balance, present any risk to the health of the individual" - http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_health1.pdf


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3450412 - 12/05/04 04:30 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

your retarded, all chemicals are hard drugs


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    #3450440 - 12/05/04 04:37 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

YOUR OPINION MATTERS TO YOU.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: Sinisteruproar]
    #3450880 - 12/05/04 07:01 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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your retarded, all chemicals are hard drugs




You seem like a real smart guy yourself :smirk:


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3451254 - 12/05/04 08:51 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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Labelling drugs as soft/hard is something "sober" people do.

To me a drug is a drug, it is neither hard nor soft.





Exactly my opinion too.
Hard, soft are only 2 words which mean nothing and dont explain the effects of a drug. Lets say that H and LSD are both hard drugs. What are the similarities between them ? They are not legal and are both 'hard' drugs, thats all :wink:

LSD and shrooms are definatly 'heavy' experiences. I dont think there made for everyone.


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Re: acid/mushrooms = soft drug? [Re: JCoke]
    #3453556 - 12/06/04 08:25 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I wanted to write a lot here, but realized I haven't read the scientifics on cocaine much.. so my comparison is shot.

Basically:

LSD + Shrooms = Harmless = Soft
Cocaine = Not Harmless = Hard


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