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Offlineamyloid
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Argyreia nervosa vs. Merremia tuberosa
    #3447409 - 12/04/04 10:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

recently a friend has obtained both, hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, and hawaiian baby woodrose (ghana strain) seeds....from this website.... i have a very strong suspicion that the ghana strain is actually hawaiian woodrose (Merremia tuberosa) which according to the information ive gathered, isnt psychoactive, or is very slightly psychoactive.

from subjective tests it appears even after 25 "ghana strain" seeds were ingested, there are no effects, or more specifically no effects that can not be ignored.

the india strain however is very nice, and gives a distinctive psychadelic effect, although it is laking some key sensations i associate with other more potent psychoactives....

im wondering if anyone knows about this "ghana strain" as i suspect that it is merely a vendor making a quick buck on a stupid market. i think the "ghana strain" is actually the inactive Merremia tuberosa... if anyone knows anything about this chime in, im trying to figure it out.


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Re: Argyreia nervosa vs. Merremia tuberosa [Re: amyloid]
    #3449812 - 12/05/04 01:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

They are a very reliable and recommended site. I highly doubt they would engage in such questionable business practices. The Ghana strain you mention is very weak. My guess is that it's so weak that you haven't tried enough to get a noticable psychactive effect.


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Re: Argyreia nervosa vs. Merremia tuberosa [Re: dblaney]
    #3454027 - 12/06/04 12:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i cant digest that the same species could produce such completely differnt active levels. what are the differences between seeds from merremia tuberosa and argyreia nervosa?


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Re: Argyreia nervosa vs. Merremia tuberosa [Re: dblaney]
    #3454550 - 12/06/04 02:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

are u speaking from actual experience or are u simply reguritating what was on the site? what information do you have that shows strains of argyreia nervosa compared by psyhadelic content?


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Re: Argyreia nervosa vs. Merremia tuberosa [Re: amyloid]
    #3455380 - 12/06/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm speaking from experience (not mine, of course)...but there's going to be different levels of the active chemicals in all plants. Think about coffee or even weed. I have not actually sampled every strain of HBWR out there, but at the prices they're being sold at, I wouldn't expect the Ghana strain to be altogether that potent. But that's just me.


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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