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OfflineJacquesCousteau
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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Swami]
    #3449808 - 12/05/04 01:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Not sure I see your point. People love drama. Doesn't mean I agree with it on any level.

I usually stay away from the threads with the most action.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3449826 - 12/05/04 01:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Not sure I see your point.

Controversy sparks debate, which draws people into expressing their opinions. If I start a thread called, "I love you guys", a few mush-puppies will repond and the thread will die quickly.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Swami]
    #3449857 - 12/05/04 01:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed, I certainly agree that your technique draws a lot of attention.

But that doesn't change the fact that it mostly draws negative attention in the form of people's defense mechanisms kicking in.

In my personal experiences in life, I have found that if I use techniques that are blunt and antagonistic, I get the result of close-minded defensive responses.

And that doesn't do anyone any good.

Obviously "I love you guys" alone is not going to draw any kind of expressive opinionation at all. If you were to say "I love you guys, but I think you should consider this alternative view to yours and maybe give it some thought" that would be a different thing all together.

Anyway, that's about as completely as I can express my opinion on your methodology. I don't have anything more to say, and I'm (obviously) not interested in turning this into a debate, so I hope you can see where I'm coming from without me having to explain further. (Because I won't be responding again to explain further.)


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Swami]
    #3449878 - 12/05/04 01:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Also, you have to take into account the true Christian and the hypocritical Christians to be 100% accurate in your claims.

Please include a metric so that I may be more accurate.




No problem, but there's one problem. You made up that whole thing so.. there's the biggest problem.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3449889 - 12/05/04 01:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

People love drama.

So, I should give people something that they hate? *scratches head*


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3449916 - 12/05/04 02:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:
I love it when quibblers philosophise. LOL




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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3450012 - 12/05/04 02:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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But then Jesus would not have died for their sins, so there would have been no salvation available for them anyway.

Right?




No. Hereditary sin was invented by early Christians to rationalise why he had to be crucified.

The real reason he died on the cross is because the pharisees didn't like what he taught about religion and God, and the Jews themselves chose Barabas over Jesus.

Crucifiction was a Roman form of punishment meant for "terrorists", traitors and murderers. A prophet was meant to be stoned (not the dope-related variety, mind you).


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3450173 - 12/05/04 03:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, I think you're kind of condescending and subtly antagonistic.. which "please" doesn't really make up for in my book.

But everyone has their methods, and I am not going to frown upon you for yours.


Isn't that what you just did?  :laugh:

Passive aggressive?


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: zorbman]
    #3450191 - 12/05/04 03:30 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

He just took subtlety to a new level.  :tongue:


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Swami]
    #3450506 - 12/05/04 04:56 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Swami you will not ever hear me say that anyone religion is the right one.
I won't, eh?

I do know that Jesus is the only way to get to God.
In direct contrast to your opening statement.

I rest my case.




Once again you have put a very narrow Swami window on a persons statement.

Do you realize how many religious groups believe that Jesus is the way to God ? Hundreds Swami

My statement was correct.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3450522 - 12/05/04 05:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Christianity and it's close affiliates, are by many, considered "one" religion.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3450524 - 12/05/04 05:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The thousands of groups that are "wrong" will tell me JUST AS SINCERELY as you do that they are right.

Do you not see this?


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3450575 - 12/05/04 05:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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JacquesCousteau said:
Indeed, I certainly agree that your technique draws a lot of attention.

But that doesn't change the fact that it mostly draws negative attention in the form of people's defense mechanisms kicking in.






Well I agree with this. Let me say that while I may be somewhat defensive to Swami last few posts regarding my beliefs. It goes far past such a internal issue.

Swami has a certain cloud of "Huge Ego" and a complete lack of being wrong. I have yet to see Swami say he is wrong.( In fact I have seen him many times spew that he is correct and take much joy in it) I have not seen Swami in any way fall to the fact that he may be incorrect from time to time. It is very hard to prove or disprove many of the topics discussed here I understand that. Which is why he s so fond of this board.

The fact is that Men who are so filled with themselves really bothers me. Call it a personal weakness :rolleyes:

I have now invited Swami and those that hold his teachings close into my faults and beliefs. I am aware of my weakness and no perfectly well what I have invited.

Fact is Swami is not capable of finding fault in himself. Well maybe he can but he will never tell us. And for me that is a sign of a very poor leader.  :grin:

A person like Swami just invites a person like me to engage with him.

As Swami is not perfect. I too am not perfect.


He has spent much effort to Analyze others and sometimes down right insults them with mockery. So how surprised is anyone that a person will inspect him ? While Swami may be very intelligent he shows almost no wisdom and almost no respect for others.


P.S. I am not the first to say this :thumbup:


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3450657 - 12/05/04 05:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think you've _ever_ seen swami...


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Swami]
    #3450692 - 12/05/04 06:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ok let me get this straight, fucknuckle wants to take swamis 20 000 dollar challenge, but for no money?

now i thought the challenge was if you can demonstrate some kind of paranormal phenomenon or ability in agreed upon conditions with impartial witnesses etc etc you got the money.

so what is it that your planning to do? you said some random stuff about the challenge and then some angry stuff about swami but i must have missed the when you said what it is that your going to show...


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3450913 - 12/05/04 07:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It seems fucknuckle is not so much delivering a message to Swami and his followers as he is reaffirming his own beliefs... and I'm glad to see that others have picked up on this.

Why is Fucknuckle derailing Swami's threads and making Swami specific posts? He's scared. Swami brings up points that are hard to refute... and it's crystal clear to me that fucknuckle is trying hard to find a strong enough position to withstand Swami's truth.

"you need to keep this silly ego game you play"
It's a game you're playing too.

"Not a board completely dedicated to the dictation that God is false and not real."
No such agenda exists.

"I will not stand by idle and let you continue to spread your false beliefs"
Swami takes an active approach dispelling myths and misinformation. You're a victim... you refuse to accept any truth other than you're own. People like you are the root of conflict.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Astrojax]
    #3450939 - 12/05/04 07:18 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

""People like you are the root of conflict.""

:lol: :thumbup: :heart:


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Astrojax]
    #3450943 - 12/05/04 07:21 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Most of you who have owned animals will know what I am talking about. People tend to take there personalities and retrofit them to the pets they keep. If an animal is lying on the ground, and the owner is unhappy... the owner might make a comment about how sad it looks. And when the animal is hungry and looking for food, the owner will make up another story about how it is lonely. This is exactly what fucknuckle does to his imaginary pet.

Fucknuckle doesn't like the idea that you call his pet unreal... that makes him sad. Low and behold, god is sad when you question his existence. His posts are rife with this parallel.


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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Astrojax]
    #3450958 - 12/05/04 07:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

how do you know what "Fucknuckle doesn't like"?
not kidding :P if you got that ability, please do tell me what i like and/or dont like :wink: and if you really got 'it', could you tell me what my problem is, if any? :wink:
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Re: To Swami and his followers [Re: Gomp]
    #3450996 - 12/05/04 07:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not even gonna read this shit, but I'm gonna give you an advice.

If you can get 20 grand, get it, and do something nice for somebody. Make somebodys day/life better. Go love people.

I thought that was the way to follow Jesus. But, obviously, its discussing which inocular that percieves the universe most 'correct', standing up for yourself and your belief, and yatta.


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