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Chocolate Substrate
    #3447261 - 12/04/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Agar was at local Feed, Seed & Garden Supply today buying some supplies & noticed large cheap 25 pound bags cocoa shell sold as a mulch product.

Bag said, 2.5% nitrogen, 1.0% phosphate and 3.0% potash.

Product looks sort of like brown cornflakes & is said to hold moisture very well.

Anybody tinkered with this as, or in bulk substrate?

Just wondering?


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: agar]
    #3448475 - 12/05/04 02:32 AM (12 years, 8 days ago)

[url=http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:q2FYX2IiuQQJ:www.mushworld.com:1508/service/handbook/2004/chapter-3.pdf+"cocoa+shell"&hl=en]cocoa shell waste[/url] is apparently used for oyster mushroom cultivation... although i have no experience with it, it sounds nice.


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: agar]
    #3457874 - 12/07/04 01:32 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

Try it, I'd be interested in knowing its susceptibility to contams.


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: SweetLeaf]
    #3460248 - 12/07/04 04:55 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Will do, but not real high on priority list.


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: agar]
    #3460351 - 12/07/04 05:19 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Hasn't been used for mushroom work here,but great for making different types of plant soil. Although it (in unpasteurized/unsterilized form) seems to get the Green Death real easy.

There will be some trials run on pasteurized coca shells and the results will posted for both Ps. cubensis and Pl. ostreatus.


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: Alkaloids]
    #3461244 - 12/07/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

I work in a nursery, and the bags of cocoa shell mulch say on them

"molds may develop on mulch during periods of high humidy"

makes you think...


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: Boom]
    #3462964 - 12/08/04 03:42 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Hell,..... molds will develope in about any wet moist nute, anything.... if not treated right.


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: agar]
    #3463030 - 12/08/04 04:07 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

I was simply pointing out that some substrates, either due to standard handling practices or due to a natural inclination, have a greater inclination towards developing molds.

Cocoa shell might be fine with just pasteurization, but it might also need to be treated like sawdust and be sterilized. Hopefully we'll find out quickly.


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Re: Chocolate Substrate [Re: Alkaloids]
    #3467844 - 12/09/04 12:25 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Cocoa shells are an interesting material. I use them around my house as mulch. Usually I pur them down in the spring and they develope a layer of thick mold when it rains. If you live in Massachuttes or Rhode Island, you can get these for free from a chocolate refinery located in Mansfield Massachuttes. (or at least a year ago you could) The name of the refinery is Merckens Chocolate, and they make a coverture grade chocolate used by fine confectioners. Well worth learning about.


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