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PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light)
    #3444412 - 12/04/04 03:04 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

I started off, as many, using PF tek.

In the tek it is suggested during incubation that the temps be around 70. Obviously, more advanced knowledge has lead to incubating at 82 - 86 degrees for optimal results.

Next, in the tek, it is suggested that you expose the incubating jars to indirect light.

However, recently it was brought to my attention, that during incubation, keep the jars in complete darkness.

So what I need is an answer regarding light. Should I expose to indirect light or should I keep the jars in complete darkness 24/7?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: RootedGrowth]
    #3444437 - 12/04/04 03:19 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

nm, found my answer.


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: RootedGrowth]
    #20449074 - 08/20/14 06:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Whats the answer????


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: teamjinx]
    #20449111 - 08/20/14 06:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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RootedGrowth said:
I started off, as many, using PF tek. 

In the tek it is suggested during incubation that the temps be around 70.  Obviously, more advanced knowledge has lead to incubating at 82 - 86 degrees for optimal results.

Next, in the tek, it is suggested that you expose the incubating jars to indirect light.

However, recently it was brought to my attention, that during incubation, keep the jars in complete darkness.

So what I need is an answer regarding light.  Should I expose to indirect light or should I keep the jars in complete darkness 24/7?

Thanks in advance.



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RootedGrowth said:
nm, found my answer.



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teamjinx said:
Whats the answer????



:whathesaid:






Yes, I quoted this guy, just in case he tries to be slick and delete the post.......


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: RootedGrowth]
    #20449119 - 08/20/14 06:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I started off, as many, using PF tek. 

In the tek it is suggested during incubation that the temps be around 70.  Obviously, more advanced knowledge has lead to incubating at 82 - 86 degrees for optimal results.



Obviously......wow......82-86F is too high.....

Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 83F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.

Follow the tek FFS!


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: PussyFart]
    #20449133 - 08/20/14 06:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

first link in my signature.

Don't incubate your PF jars ever.

Room temp is fine.

worry if you're under 60F, but even still they'll eventually colonize.

At 75F cubes grow as fast as they ever will. From 75-81/82F they grow the same speed but at temps above 81/82 the growth speed slows dramatically.

This is internal temperature which can be easily a couple degrees warmer than ambient. A single colonizing jar produces heat which will raise it's own temperature.

Light is always good during all stages.

There's more on light and temperature if you read through my links


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20449140 - 08/20/14 06:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F ,



That was from TMC. That temperature chart in there's been proven wrong a bunch of times. They stall at 81/82F according to RR's tests at least.


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20449148 - 08/20/14 06:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F ,



That was from TMC. That temperature chart in there's been proven wrong a bunch of times. They stall at 81/82F according to RR's tests at least.



Hmmmmm.......hold on...lets do some searching.......you might be right.....


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SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: PussyFart]
    #20449162 - 08/20/14 06:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Any substrate temperature over 83F will slow down colonization.  This means the air in the room should be no more than 80F to keep the mycelium from exceeding the maximum growth range.  Maximum growth occurs between 75F and 81F substrate temperature. (Assuming P cubensis.)
RR



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19875833#19875833

Posted 3 months ago......hmmmmm....post edited lol.


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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: PussyFart]
    #20449186 - 08/20/14 06:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

:oldthread:

9yrs old guys :wink:

And PF you told me you'd change that a month ago :lol:

noobs have been copying it several times that I've seen in the last few weeks :tongue2:


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: spacechildo]
    #20449221 - 08/20/14 06:48 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have so many posts saved so I can copy and paste them but it's hard to target all the little inconsistency problems with quoting things you didn't write.

Regardless, Just don't fucking incubate your shit, and you'll be fine


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: spacechildo]
    #20449252 - 08/20/14 06:53 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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And PF you told me you'd change that a month ago :lol:

noobs have been copying it several times that I've seen in the last few weeks :tongue2:



I remember lol, it's alright lol.....I can only do so much...I am editing the main source now lol.


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20449265 - 08/20/14 06:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I know.

I noticed it in PF's RR quote about a month ago and told him and he said :thumbup:
but nothing happened so a couple days ago or so when he posted it again I
whined about it and even threw in a :Prisoner1:

I guess its a :stoner: thing or he just doesn't care what I think
:Prisoner1:

:lol:


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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: spacechildo]
    #20449277 - 08/20/14 06:57 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I changed the "shit for noobs link in my sig from TMETHYL's page to the page in my journal, only because I cannot edit his page.

I will relay the message to him via PM.

Forgive me community, I have failed you...........lol


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SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: PF tek questions regarding incubation..(temps and light) [Re: PussyFart]
    #20449306 - 08/20/14 07:02 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I changed the "shit for noobs link in my sig from TMETHYL's page to the page in my journal, only because I cannot edit his page.

I will relay the message to him via PM.

Forgive me community, I have failed you...........lol



:thumbup: Thanks bro.

And I tried to wait for you the other day to post it, but you never came :frown:


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