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    #3443605 - 12/03/04 09:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3443624 - 12/03/04 10:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah one of my buddies got in trouble for downloading matrix 2 when it forst came out. so they wrote him an email and scared the shit out of him and then gave him a warning.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3443628 - 12/03/04 10:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

This is all FUD (Fear Uncertainty & Doubt)

They have no way of doing anything to me, I OWN THE F#%KING MOVIE!


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3443648 - 12/03/04 10:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah a friend had the cable company here call him the day after d/ling a new-ish movie and made him delete it while on the phone with them. then said not to do it again or else. seems companys are putting out files that send your ip after you download them then scare you from doing it again. not a bad idea, guess they're starting to take a proactive approach.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3443665 - 12/03/04 10:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ya know, I would be tempted to push the limits on this one - if it were me.....  Since you OWN the fuggin movie, and can proove it should it come to that point, I would start downloading that movie EVERY FUGGIN DAY until they took action - more than likely call their bluff....    It was NEVER asked in their e-mail weather or not you owned the movie....  And if they were to take action before actually finding out the facts and asking you the right questions, I would think that they would be liable for a law suit....  I don't know the law, and don't know what would come out of this, but I am a stubborn SOB that would push it...!   

:lol:    Fugg em'....!

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: John]
    #3443678 - 12/03/04 10:19 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Bait - trap - and scare....?

Having a back-up copy is legal.... I would have told the person that caleld that guy to go smoke a pole - with a prompt hang-up.... After I asked how the hell they got my number - with the threat of harassment if they called back....

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3443688 - 12/03/04 10:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i always thought about what you said blink. i always thought if i got busted i would go buy the cd/dvd and when they took me to court i would show proof of purchase to view that movie/song. i always thought that would work.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3443823 - 12/03/04 11:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The same thing happened to me, except with Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas instead of Spiderman


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3443927 - 12/03/04 11:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

that sounds like a complete load of crap to me, I am sure other peeps do the same thing all the time...best of luck to you!


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: Skunk420]
    #3443947 - 12/03/04 11:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I think I have gotten two or three of those notices from comcast so far, I just ignore em. They can't do shit, it's a stupid scare tactic.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: MobiusStripper]
    #3443957 - 12/03/04 11:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yea just ignore them, they are just tring to make themselves look good..it seems like it to me..


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) *DELETED* [Re: MobiusStripper]
    #3444058 - 12/04/04 12:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3444091 - 12/04/04 12:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I'm downloading Spiderman 2 as we speak.

And "Tron 2.0". I hope it's good.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3444300 - 12/04/04 02:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

If you have wireless broadband you get dynamic IP's, so your IP doesnt stay the same. I wonder if they can track you down.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: ninjapixie]
    #3444341 - 12/04/04 02:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yes.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3444375 - 12/04/04 02:42 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Did they use the PGP encryption or just the PGP signing feature?


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3444635 - 12/04/04 06:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm downloading Spiderman 2 as we speak.

And "Tron 2.0". I hope it's good.




OOooooooo.....!    Tron 2.0...?    :ooo:

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3444646 - 12/04/04 06:38 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

my internet got shut down for 72 hrs for downloading west wing off of bittorrent. its all bittorrent, its so easy to get ips off of it.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3445220 - 12/04/04 11:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

In Canada it is perfectly LEGAL to make or obtain "backup" copies of movies, music, or software which you own. Which is why most (all?) of the lawsuits have all been down south of the border.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) *DELETED* [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #3445252 - 12/04/04 11:31 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3445293 - 12/04/04 11:43 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

about a year ago, i had a file server going thru IRC, and then one day the internet was shut off, and thier was a letter in the mail saying that the ip blah blah blah "had movies available to download"... so they said if it happened again, they would not offer service any more.... so i didnt download anything in a long time, maybe a good 2 weeks, and then i realised that thier were just better ways of getting movies, like the newsgroups... then torrents

does anyone use peer guardian? i've noticed that my download speed go up when it's off, but when it's on, it blocks a lot of connections... mostly to organizations that would really have good up speed.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: Phychotron]
    #3445428 - 12/04/04 12:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

This is a great reason to use Azureus with the Safepeer plugin (or just get Protowall).

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: Ythan]
    #3445557 - 12/04/04 01:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow man, Azureus looks awesome, I'm gonna download it. It looks way better than the bittorrent I've been using.

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3445822 - 12/04/04 03:19 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Cogeco did the same thing to a buddy of mine, but they didn't actually do anything. I think they do it just to scare ya.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3481347 - 12/11/04 01:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

people need to start using a decent firewall (like outpost pro) that has the ability to log every IP address that connects to your computer by date. If they get these letters, they need to forward them to bluetack.co.uk as well as the relevent firewall logs, so that bluetack.co.uk and block their IP ranges to prevent this from happening to someone else.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: Vvellum]
    #3481711 - 12/11/04 02:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i had the same thing happen to me, on a couple of occasions

once for downlaoding the "Gargoyles" serries (12GB, damm that was a long ass download)
and for downloading an episode of "Stargate Atlantis"

but thesse were TV shows, so i dunno bout the legallity of that, is it the same as movies, i know d/l'ing music is legal (in canada anyway)


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: DF2K]
    #3484783 - 12/12/04 02:21 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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i had the same thing happen to me, on a couple of occasions

once for downlaoding the "Gargoyles" serries (12GB, damm that was a long ass download)
and for downloading an episode of "Stargate Atlantis"

but thesse were TV shows, so i dunno bout the legallity of that, is it the same as movies, i know d/l'ing music is legal (in canada anyway)




TV shows, if they have commercials still in them, are from my pov ok, it's the advertisers that get pissy with the broadcasters, they paid for the ad to run and if it gets distro'ed without their message, they feel like they are loosing money


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3484823 - 12/12/04 02:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

so im ok downloading anything other then TV shows then?

(im kind of intoxicaed right now :smile:)


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3484872 - 12/12/04 02:49 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i feel good knowing that their lawyers will cost 40 times more than anythign they can get outa me.  im typing on teh most espensive thing i own, but i uhh "bought" everything i downloaded too....liek we buy that mr blink :grin:


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3490529 - 12/13/04 12:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I think we're missing a vital bit of info here...

the reasoning that 'downloading a movie you already paid for is perfectly legal' doesn't apply here, because bittorrent also distributes while you download.

so while it may be legal for you to download it, it isn't legal for you to distribute it... it would seem to be a clear violation of columbia's copyright, and not defensible by merely proving ownership of the dvd


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3490739 - 12/13/04 01:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

here lemme give a bit of advice here.

DONT DOWNLOAD NEW MOVIES AND NEWLY RELEASED STUFF THRU ANY TORRENT SOURCE!!!.

use newsgroups for that.

Bit torrent is still great for things like TV shows OLD movies, old rare puter games ect.. et..

I download gigs of tv show stuff a month thru torrent and never any issues. They collect IPs on the new released stuff. Movie companies are now paying other companies to do the collection for them.

Also if anyone is using the standard bit torrent client uninstall it immediatly and get yet Another Bit Torrent client (abc). Its #1.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: baraka]
    #3490785 - 12/13/04 01:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: baraka]
    #3490786 - 12/13/04 01:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

does ABC have any plugins or anything to help *mask* your IP

i have used both ABC and Azereus, and right now im currently using ABC


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: blink]
    #3490816 - 12/13/04 01:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If you are downloading a torrent u can not mask yer ip address.

To be downloading from me(or another client) they MUST know yer ip address and i can collect any of that information with any client that still has advanced details turned on.

Thats one big problem with torrent. Anyone can look and see all the IP addresses of people downloading. You are not very hidden bit torrenting.


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: baraka]
    #3491420 - 12/13/04 03:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

How would using a different bittorrent client make any difference, isn't it all the same protocol?


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Re: Bittorrent & Legal Action (This could happen to you) [Re: Phluck]
    #3491540 - 12/13/04 03:56 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yes its all the same protocal

and no, useing a differant client wont help


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