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A priest doesn't like me
    #3442673 - 12/03/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So I'm in a diversion program (similar to probation), and one of my last duties was to complete an out-patient treatment program. For my last step of the program, I had to complete a 'step 5' from Alcoholics Anonymous, which in this case apparently means going to discuss my life with a priest.

I went to go talk to him, expecting to get some positive information on how I could maybe change for the better. I read him a two page personal history that I had written as a pre-requisite for the meeting, and he was impressed with my writing and speaking skills.. then the trouble came.

He told me that I am "smart, but not intelligent." I can actually agree with this statement - as I am quite able to make informed decisions, but I tend to not do it. I have a very immature sense of judgement.

I explained to him my intention of cutting alcohol out my life. He wasn't impressed. I had earlier mentioned that I smoked pot throughout my high school years, but didn't think any of my problems came from smoking pot; and that alcohol was the prime suspect for my behavior (it really is). I also explained to him that I do not blame alcohol or any other drugs for my problems, but that I cannot continue living a healthy life with alcohol included in it. I told him about my mushroom use, and that I felt that occasionally using pot and / or mushrooms would not hurt my future or destroy my life in any way (I am thouroughly convinced of this, as neither have ever caused me problems in the past, and I do not have the intention of being a pothead)

He proceeded to tell me there was 'not even a ghost of a chance' that I could stay sober for the rest of my life. I replied, "I know.. I have no intention of staying sober until I die." I don't! He got upset with me and told me that "drugs are addictive." I answered him by saying that "I don't think that lumping all drugs together is fair." He began to ramble on about how using any drug is "using." ...uhh, derr...

He said it is wrong to use a drug to 'feel better,' as I was doing with marijuana. I asked him about anti-depressants. He said that "doctors prescribe those. Are you depressed?" WTF... that wasn't the point I was making at all. He was convinced that pharms were somehow better than any other mood lifter. I should have asked him about St. John's Wort :tongue:

All in all, this guy got rid of me in under 30 minutes, at a meeting I was told would last "a couple hours."

He told me that I am:

1) On the wrong path.
2) Not in touch with reality.
3) Going to end up self-destructing.
4) Without a ghost of a chance of staying sober.

I am spiritually better off right now than I have ever been, I am not going to 'self destruct' from occasionally smoking pot and tripping on mushrooms, and he never even specified what path I was supposed to be on.

He also told me that I was going to end up back in this program again, and that I'd see in ten years or so that he was right.

He judged my whole life (past and future) in under thirty minutes.

I do not like this man.  :mad2:


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: lukeboots]
    #3442691 - 12/03/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

That priest should not be counseling you. Don't take it personally! It sounds like you're getting things under control and you know what's good for you and what's not. Keep it up and don't worry about what he said.  I think it's awesome you had the balls to speak the truth to him. :heart:  Good luck with getting alcohol out of your life!


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #3442707 - 12/03/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Priests are for molesting lil kiddies, not for giving drug/alcohol related counseling or therapy.


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #3442715 - 12/03/04 05:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Phishgrrl, I think I'm doing ok with my life too, which is why this guy's bad attitude towards all my goals and beliefs kinda made me mad. Luckily that was the only time I'll have to see that guy. :wink:


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: lukeboots]
    #3442721 - 12/03/04 05:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

haha the wrong path. Guy seems like a dick. There is no right or wrong path, theres just different ones.


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: lukeboots]
    #3442729 - 12/03/04 05:21 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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jonnywax said:

He judged my whole life (past and future) in under thirty minutes.




He sounds TOO judgemental to me. And to come to such conclusions about a person's life in 30 minutes is pretty shortsided, IMHO. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in his "advice".

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I do not like this man.  :mad2:




I don't blame you. I wouldn't like him either


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: DNKYD]
    #3442747 - 12/03/04 05:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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DNKYD said:
Priests are for molesting lil kiddies, not for giving drug/alcohol related counseling or therapy.




:lol:

My grandpa was a lutheran priest, and a great man, but this guy was just not cool at all.

Thanks for the support guys, I just need some pub love.

I've gotta do a follow-up with my actual drug/alcohol counselor, and not the priest.. I think I'm supposed to explain what we talked about, I hope that priests opinions don't make the actual counselor think I need more time in his program. I thought I was making good progress. :shrug:


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: barfightlard]
    #3442751 - 12/03/04 05:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

look everyone has their thing that they like to do. if you're at terms within yourself about who you are and you are causing no harm to anyone else, then that's that. let the priest be the priest and you be yourself and everything else will work itself out in the end.peace


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: barfightlard]
    #3442753 - 12/03/04 05:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Um yeah... step five is 'We admitted to god, ourselves, and another human being the exact nature of our wrongs'. I am fucking appalled that they made you do this with a priest. AA is about a higher power not religion.

Bill W. says step five is all about learning to forgive, so maybe you should forgive this priest for judging you.


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Jim]
    #3442768 - 12/03/04 05:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

blissedout, I agree with you. :thumbup:

GratefulJim, yeah it was kinda bogus that I had to do this with a priest, but that's how these people's program works I guess. Good advice about forgiving this guy, I don't really want to hold it against him or anything..

I told him that I was a spiritual person, but didn't "give myself up to any religion or organization." A couple minutes later, he referred to me as an atheist. I don't get it.


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3442769 - 12/03/04 05:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

He told me that I am:

1) On the wrong path.
2) Not in touch with reality.
3) Going to end up self-destructing.
4) Without a ghost of a chance of staying sober.



Thats not very cool. I think he is a little judgemental. You should have asked him about his thoughts on Preists and young boys :werd:
I wouldn't put much stock into preists these days...
They seem to be doing bad things behind closed doors~


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3442770 - 12/03/04 05:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

he is a priest.. in other words, a conservative fuck. simple. i have faith that you will kick the booze.


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Jim]
    #3442776 - 12/03/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

great thumb greatfuljim!! :cool:


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: Jim]
    #3442777 - 12/03/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

GratefulJim said:
Bill W. says step five is all about learning to forgive, so maybe you should forgive this priest for judging you.




Only after he takes a dump in the confessional booth! :biggrin:


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: druqks46]
    #3442778 - 12/03/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

junkie, I didn't wanna bring any sore spots for him into it :wink: Plus, it was supposed to be about me, so meh..

And druqks, thanks :thumbup: I'm tryin', man!


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: lukeboots]
    #3442786 - 12/03/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

thats cool of you. he was a jerk...


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #3442812 - 12/03/04 05:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

this priest is a seriously confusing individual that sounds like he causes more problems than he solves.


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: blissedout]
    #3442833 - 12/03/04 05:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

He sure did more bad than good for me. I was repeatedly called immature, which I can understand.. I'm only 19. I told him that I was trying to be mature about the whole thing, but that there wasn't a whole lot I could do to silence the nineteen year old ambition inside me.

I told him that I want to move to Canada, he told me that "travelling the world" (dude, I'm just crossing one border!) would "leave me exactly where I started."

What really confused me is that he didn't offer any solutions, only pointed out my so-called problems. When he told me that I seemed to have a kind of reckless attitude, I told him that he should have seen me six months ago. He replied, "I don't think I would have wanted to."

What a helpful man :smirk:


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: lukeboots]
    #3442866 - 12/03/04 05:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

damn, what guidence...
and people wonder why catholics get a bad rep


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Re: A priest doesn't like me [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #3442892 - 12/03/04 05:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I hope you arn't actually taking this man's advice seriously?!
He's obviously very narrow minded and completely out of touch with the way life really is.


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