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Offlinej88671
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Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars
    #3440728 - 12/03/04 02:45 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

hey im doing a rye grain grow (to be cased) in half gallon jars w/6 ccs of EQ, and i soaked, simmered, and PCed, followed all the instructions i got from the teks, put them into a ghetto incubation chamber which is about 82 degrees and after 2 weeks i still see just about nothing. they look almost the same. maybe its the extra water from using 6 ccs and having un-ideal conditions, but im looking for advice. I see no signs of contams either, no excessive drying, etc. whats wrong with me? i have pics but i felt they are not needed, if it would help i can post them. thanks in advance!


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: j88671]
    #3440756 - 12/03/04 02:59 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

whered you get half gallon jars? , how did you inoculate them? How hydrated does the rye look?


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: j88671]
    #3440766 - 12/03/04 03:02 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)


Second from left is 1/2 gallon heavy G2G (4 or 5 heaping tablespoons).
Quarts are tablespoon G2G.
1/2 gallon jars are tough, with spore innoc.
Often to wet & wet spot shows up.
Almost sounds like a bunk syringe, if all else is optimal.
Bags with gallon of WBS, go like wildfire w/G2G
Sorry, not much help.


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: j88671]
    #3440767 - 12/03/04 03:02 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Well, first of all, they're half gallons. I've never heard of trying that much at once. What are you using, jars? And where did you knock them up at? If you did it stright in the middle then maybe the myc. is growing from the inside out and that's why you don't see any growth. Your temps sound fine and you used a Shitload of spores. Hm, that bigs me to one more Q, did you tap the syringe to knock the spores off the walls and into the water prior to knockin them up, and post and pic please, i'd like to see them =0


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3440771 - 12/03/04 03:03 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Wow, i've never seen jars that big, sounds like agar's got it covered. Gl man.


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3440820 - 12/03/04 03:21 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

If your going for BULK,  :grin: :grin:
Big filter patch autoclave bags are much better.
You can get a lot more grain volume in bags, in a PC,
than you can 1/2 gallon jars.


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: agar]
    #3440942 - 12/03/04 04:37 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

i never noticed how far back those went....damn...if only I have MY own dame factory. I'd have Shroomfest,it'd be hardcore. lol nice pic,


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3440988 - 12/03/04 05:54 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

So all that bulk is sterilized then knocked up with spawn in a sterile environment (lab assuming)? Nice stuff as you know.. I wanted to ask you how all of that was pasturized..

Pics can help if they are good. I'm hoping you've shaken these alot. Once they start going they should go faster but it may take a little bit..then give it a really nice shake to spread it around and it should finish up quick. Or could be anything agar mentioned..sorry..maybe the pic will help us help further?


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: agar]
    #3441117 - 12/03/04 08:36 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

agar said:
If your going for BULK,  :grin: :grin:
Big filter patch autoclave bags are much better.
You can get a lot more grain volume in bags, in a PC,
than you can 1/2 gallon jars.





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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: Silven]
    #3441122 - 12/03/04 08:45 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

thats a commercial grow...
it could be for sale as 'grow your own' edibles
or possibly for edibles destined for the supermarket.


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3441431 - 12/03/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

I have popcorn in the fruiting chamber right now that was incubated in half gallon jars. I have used them about 2 times. No problem the same as quart jars. I did six halfgallons this time 2 got contaims the other four I made three casings with. One just started pinning on the side last night. I have had trouble pinning them. I used 6 cc's per jar also. I think it was an over kill. And I did have a little excess fluid in the bottom. But the worked out. I use a temp of like 90 for incubation. It seems to help.


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: splifferd]
    #3441618 - 12/03/04 12:08 PM (12 years, 3 days ago)

You can get those things at Michael's craft store if anyone is on the lookout for them. I just bought one for a giant liquid culture ;]


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3441798 - 12/03/04 12:56 PM (12 years, 3 days ago)

:laugh: Thought as a second terrarium! :lol:


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: splifferd]
    #3446851 - 12/04/04 08:08 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

i got the half gallon jars at The Container Store. Its been 3 weeks about and still just about nothing. The 6 ccs was too much cus the water to grain ratio is a little off and the bottom of the jars are too wet. I shot them up in the middle, and have shaken the jars every so often. I shook up the syringes before the innoc. here is a picture, and thanks a ton so far, I'm hoping all a need is patience.
this is at about 2 weeks, 4 days
http://www.albumtown.com/showpic.php?aid=9931&uuid=5629&pid=122696


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: j88671]
    #3451936 - 12/05/04 11:05 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

in one of the jars there is some milky white dots in the wet bottom, and it kinda has a little stink to it. any pointers would be much appriciated.


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Re: Problem with 1/2 gallon rye jars [Re: j88671]
    #3451969 - 12/05/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

I'm not sure what that'd be but i know that anything that smells funky isn't good, i'm quarintne it and put it by its self somewhere just incase and see what happens, some people would say trash it but ya never really know till you let it develop and see it, well gl


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