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I AM That I AM
    #3440602 - 12/03/04 02:07 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Came in my mail from Popeye, enjoy!

I Am That I Am

I have, at last, reached MY goal,
And solved the secret of MY soul.
I am THAT, to whom I prayed,
THAT, to whom I looked for aid.
I am THAT, whom I did seek.
I am MY own mountain peak.

I, upon creation look,
As a page from MY own book.
For I am the ONE, the many make,
Of substance, which from ME I take.
For ALL is ME, there are not two,
Creation is MYSELF, all through.

What I grant, unto MYSELF,
I just take, from MYSELF.
And give it to ME, the only ONE,
For I am the Mother, Father, and the Son.

What I want, I do but see,
MY wishes flowing forth from ME.
For I am the knower, and the known,
Subject, ruler, and the throne.
The three in ONE, is what I am,
And hell itself is but a dam,
That I did put in MY own stream,
When in a nightmare, I did dream.

That I did dream;
That I was not the only ONE,
And thus by ME, was doubt begun,
Which ran its course, 'til I awoke,
And found that I, with ME, did joke.
So now, that I do stand awake,
MY throne, I do surely take,
And rule MY kingdom, which is ME,
The master, through eternity."

Translation from an ancient Egyptian cracker jack box.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3440618 - 12/03/04 02:12 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I am God. Bullshit.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3440669 - 12/03/04 02:27 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

When I read that it makes so much sense. You are your own "god". There is no higher power but your own higher power. Your "god" is not the same "god" that your neighbor holds up high.

Do you know whom this originated from? Other than being carved in a doorway in Egypt? Any particular doorway?


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: DNKYD]
    #3440770 - 12/03/04 03:03 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Yeah right.

Everybody gets to be thier own god. Yippee! Now we can all live in our own little private fantasy worlds where we are the supreme being.

Let me ask you a question. If you are the supreme being, then how can somebodyelse also be the supreme being? Hmmmm?

Or is it that you are the supreme being for real, and the rest of us just think we are the supreme being?


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3440785 - 12/03/04 03:08 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

There's a name for this brand of bullshit. It's called solipsism. Most people outgrow it by the time they reach puberty.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3440862 - 12/03/04 03:38 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Awesome! Very good. :thumbup:



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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3441832 - 12/03/04 01:05 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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shroomydan said:
I am God. Bullshit.




Of course you are not YOUR god. You put your God up on a pedastal so far removed from yourself how could you be.

Some people here DO NOT beleive in a supreme being out side of anything/ Some people here experience the supreme and sublime divinity of BEINGNESS inherent in all things of creation.

This is how they can say I am that is and so are you , you you and you.

The only reason why you think they are putting themselves in a mightier then thou position is because you think they beleive in and are equating themselves with your mightier then though supreme god- THEY DON'T and They arn't.

There is a difference between a being outside of and apart from all and the equated beingness inherent in all the parts.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3442307 - 12/03/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

solipsism is a valid, internally consistent, and non-falsifiable philosophy


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3442375 - 12/03/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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shroomydan said:
Let me ask you a question. If you are the supreme being, then how can somebodyelse also be the supreme being? Hmmmm?

Or is it that you are the supreme being for real, and the rest of us just think we are the supreme being?




"THE" supreme being you speak of is a figment of your immagination. Everybody has their own "supreme" being within themselves. More than not people feel more comfortable associating their supreme being with the same one the Christian church does, or Islam, or Judaism. I am not claiming to be "THE" supreme being, because there is not ONE singular supreme being. It's just another function of your brain, a little side effect of having a higher brain center that animals do not. It is inherent in human nature to feel incomplete, unworthy, and fallable. The last is, of course, correct. But the other two drive us to have faith in this higher being, which then drives us to associate our higher being with those of the social norm.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3442392 - 12/03/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I think that you've drastically misinterpreted the meaning of this.

Hear me out... try to read the following with an open mind:

The writer is not saying "I am god", he is saying we are all god. We are god incarnate. We believe we are seperate from all that is, but this is a falsification of the ego. The truth is, we are all part of the same whole. And that whole IS GOD.

Infact, when taken the way I am suggesting it is to be taken, it does the exact opposite of what you expect of it.

Instead of being a declaration of individual superiority, it is a declaration of humbleness. It is a declaration of realization of the power that lives within us all.

This power IS GOD. It lives within you, and it lives within me.

Religions have falsified the teachings of Jesus so that they convey a concept of seperation from that which is. In the eyes of the church, we are each but humble servants to a God that we are forced to be seperate from.

Realization of the meaning of this passage REMOVES this seperation. It puts you in direct contact with that which you consider GOD, because it removes the "knowance" that we are seperate from God.

Where is the elitism and solipsism in declaration of realization that we are all part of that which you consider your creator?

Essentially, the writer of this passage has MERGED with god. That is why you see the "I" "me" and "myself"s. It is, LITERALLY, God speaking through the tongue of man... because that man is part of God "him"self.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3442562 - 12/03/04 04:39 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

shroomydan said:
Yeah right.

Everybody gets to be thier own god. Yippee! Now we can all live in our own little private fantasy worlds where we are the supreme being.

Let me ask you a question. If you are the supreme being, then how can somebodyelse also be the supreme being? Hmmmm?

Or is it that you are the supreme being for real, and the rest of us just think we are the supreme being?





Your error is that there IS NO SUPREME BEING!!!

God does not hold himself "supreme" over us, like "christians" think he does.

In reality we are all one. :thumbup: :heart:


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3442633 - 12/03/04 05:00 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

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Moonshoe said:
solipsism is a valid, internally consistent, and non-falsifiable philosophy




The undeniable problem of solipsism is that it is not externally consistent. It is not communicable to other people because there are no other people.  :smirk:


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3442643 - 12/03/04 05:04 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

he he. I had to google that word. reading it, I thought to myself, my idea of what a God would be is solipsist individuated.

I say that in the sense that my idea of the creative source doesn't know anything other then itself because it all comes from it.

none the less, put that into 8 billion individuations of the self and things may appear confusing looking from the outside in. from the inside out, it's all clear.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3442648 - 12/03/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I suppose you could get a pantheistic reading from this poem. Some people like pantheism. It seems popular here.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3442657 - 12/03/04 05:06 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Another word I have to google. :tongue:


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3442667 - 12/03/04 05:09 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)



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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3442695 - 12/03/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Pretty close only speaking for myself, I don't do dieties or gods like the hindus or pagans do.

I plainly aknowledge and choose to recognise the divine light and essense of spirit in everything.

With that said, it inspires me to appreciate and see the good in everything which will make me a more compansionate person. Isn't that really the goal of any religion?


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3444011 - 12/04/04 12:15 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

The thing I like about pantheism is many aspects of divinity seem either contradictory or seem to conflict with the objective world, for example, the existence of suffering or how we are forced to eat living things.

Anyway, pantheistic religions like hinduism easily explain these differences with different divine personalities.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: shroomydan]
    #3444072 - 12/04/04 12:32 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

That's because people find pantheism to be comprehensible. They simply imagine the potentially observable universe, all-at-once, to be GOD.

I for one do not worship a comprehensible GOD. That is primitive idolatry. I will call myself panENtheistic - that GOD's immanence suffuses all of space-time but is not identical with creation, but transcends creation. We communicate by 'resonance' - my spirit with Holy Spirit.


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Re: I AM That I AM [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3444485 - 12/04/04 03:42 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

this is what all the gurus, buddhists, hindus and spiritual teachers have said. i've had the experience of oneness which was undeniable at the time. i remember upon returning to duality the first thing i told myself was not to doubt it because i knew i would again doubt it. my favorite spiritual teacher would always say you should remain as the Self in which case there was nothing foreign to you. when you doubted it you must ask yourself "who doubts it?" because the "i" who doubts it is really created by you and not apart from the Self.


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