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OfflineDivided_Sky
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Do Benzos Spoil A Trip?
    #3440466 - 12/03/04 01:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I am kind of an anxious person and I will confess to taking Xanax on a trip and it felt great. However, is it somehow cheapening or lessening the experience by easing your emotional state? It didn't feel like it at the time, but I wonder if it diverted my attention from serious issues towards "Man I feel cool! This is fun!"

I will probobly always have benzos around when I trip just in case, but it is something to think about.


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Re: Do Benzos Spoil A Trip? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3441101 - 12/03/04 08:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i think they can ease the menatal suffering one might "believe" is happening to them while on mushies...

i do consider Psilocybes a potent medicine though, and a "one man" psycotherapy tool....

i am by no means a perfect soldier, but i have uncovered many fears one mushrooms, and conquered them in that realm.

i say keep them by in case you feel you need them, but never underestimate the power of "Teonan?catl", it could be the healing path your looking for.

peace


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Re: Do Benzos Spoil A Trip? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3441119 - 12/03/04 08:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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i think they can ease the mental suffering one might "believe" is happening to them while on mushies... 



:lol::lol::lol:

Toadcasil: you can "believe" you're not resting your hand in a hot waffle iron but if you -are- then you're better off taking it out of there. I have had the pleasure to experience a fullblown panic attack with psychogenic asthma (suffocation) and palpitations on one-eighth.
Trust me I didn't "believe" it happened to me: it bloody well DID.
If my tripmates had called an ambulance on me the medics would have given me a benzo. It would've been a mess!


My first post here dealt with the Psychedelics x Benzos combi.

A tiny amount of benzos can ease unneeded anxiety, a larger amount can snuff a trip out.

BUT! benzo's work against general anxiety. If you are on a REAL bad trip then they will only ease a tiny bit of your suffering even in monster doses. Most bad trips are caused by taking too much or mundane anxiety.

My current stance is that a tiny amount of benzo will ease a tripping experience from garden variety anxiety but that action will deprive you of learning to deal with that very anxiety which is part of your basic stress response.
If you get deep undercurrent themes however a benzo will be swept aside like it was an M&M.

"confess to taking xanax on a trip" damn, does that make you less of a person? It is time we put a stop to all this tripping macho-bullshit and get real.

Keeping a benzo around when you trip is an act of WISDOM.
A benzo might be puny in RL but it's a mighty guardian of your sanity if the going gets rough. Whenever my team of geezer veterans trips, the valium is on the table. It's rarely used but it's there because it SHOULD be there.


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Re: Do Benzos Spoil A Trip? [Re: Asante]
    #3442447 - 12/03/04 04:07 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly!

The Valium or Xanax or whatever downer you happen to use can really help out if they need be, but like Wiccan said, sometimes the wild beast cannot be tamed.

And that is the exact thing that you need to be facing on the psychedelic at the time. The reason you took that mushroom was to get into whatever that conflict is that you are having with yourself. Use the mushroom and examine fix the problem you have with yourself. It is really the only problem any of us have.


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Re: Do Benzos Spoil A Trip? [Re: mecreateme]
    #3443311 - 12/03/04 08:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i said he should keep them at hand wiccan seeker,  i never said he shouldnt.

and mental anguish is different than putting your hand on a hot waffle iron!

:present:

im all for him keeping the benzos at hand for if he freaks out, i was just suggesting that he should try to handle it first, calm himself down.

if goes in to manic panic just pop the pill!

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GODS.


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