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OfflineRiffSki
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How can people belive that "god" is nice?
    #3438067 - 12/02/04 04:51 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Personal i'm not one of the christians.
I'm a buddhist, but let's see it from the christians side
God is a nice thing they say
then lets think
Why does children get raped?
Why does their parents get killed by bombs?
why do we have war?
Why are we sad?
why are the human race so evil?
if god is all nice why do we still exist?
why dont he do something?


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3438073 - 12/02/04 04:52 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

He did


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3438096 - 12/02/04 04:56 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

in christianity its essentially god vs satan in terms of man.

so satan explains most of what you're talking about.


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: vampirism]
    #3438102 - 12/02/04 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

It has nothing to do with God versus Satan

That is a complete misconception


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3438112 - 12/02/04 04:59 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

in terms of man, how does it not have to do with God vs Satan? I didn't say overall God and Satan are going at it, rather man has to deal with both conflicting sides and follow a path which leads to one of them.


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3438130 - 12/02/04 05:01 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Some Christians do have a God vs. Satan outlook, it all depends on who you talk to.


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: Phluck]
    #3438167 - 12/02/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

How can people belive?


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: Gomp]
    #3438174 - 12/02/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

yes, god did not created the man.
the man created god


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3438202 - 12/02/04 05:14 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

why are you so certain


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: vampirism]
    #3438210 - 12/02/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

God told him.


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: Phluck]
    #3439469 - 12/02/04 09:31 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Why does children get raped?
Why does their parents get killed by bombs?
why do we have war?
Why are we sad?
why are the human race so evil?
if god is all nice why do we still exist?
why dont he do something?


It is because we are more concerned with insisting upon our own fantastic independence than we are with realizing our oneness with God. We shriek it across the land: "I am Man! I decide how things grow, when things die, when and where it will be plentiful, and when and where it will be famine!" There is tremendous grandiosity pervading our human culture, and because each of us as individuals grows from the same pot of cultural dirt, it is a grandiosity borne in us as well. It's like a disease. Because there is this self-importance existing within us, this fervent notion of island-like independence, and because our desire for security is so great, there is within all of us the enormous potential for delusions, anger, hatred, violence, and, as the only possible result of our arrogance, suffering.


"Every time your heart aches at the sight of another's pain, think of that as God crying through you."

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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: Phluck]
    #3439520 - 12/02/04 09:38 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
God told him.




I think that response just made my day. Thank you Phluck.  :grin:

This place is such a great interactive soap opera!


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3439759 - 12/02/04 10:29 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

RiffSki said:
Personal i'm not one of the christians.
I'm a buddhist, but let's see it from the christians side
God is a nice thing they say
then lets think
Why does children get raped?
Why does their parents get killed by bombs?
why do we have war?
Why are we sad?
why are the human race so evil?
if god is all nice why do we still exist?
why dont he do something?




bad things happen not because God isnt nice, but because humans have the free will to perform evil (and choose to do evil A LOT)


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: MrBump]
    #3439774 - 12/02/04 10:32 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

No, "bad" things happen because people label things as "bad" :wink:


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: deff]
    #3439787 - 12/02/04 10:36 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

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deff said:
No, "bad" things happen because people label things as "bad" :wink:




:thumbup:

Thats one of the reasons why once you get beyond duality, you are in a virtual heaven and hell no longer exists, here there or anywhere. Even if you were in anothers idea of hell, you wouldn't experience it as hell.


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3439799 - 12/02/04 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

exactly :laugh:


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: deff]
    #3439809 - 12/02/04 10:41 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

yeah, arent there any universally 'evil' things?
like rape or murder?


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: MrBump]
    #3439814 - 12/02/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

not that I know of :wink:


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: MrBump]
    #3440022 - 12/02/04 11:35 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

How can something be universally evil if even the soil it happens on doesn't consider it evil? It is not evil to the one doing it, as he may justify it completely. I doubt a cheetah considers it evil when he chases down a gazelle, or a human when he eats the flesh of a murdered cow. There are no absolutes in the world of opinions, and that is just what good and evil are


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Re: How can people belive that "god" is nice? [Re: RiffSki]
    #3440047 - 12/02/04 11:40 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

RiffSki said:
Personal i'm not one of the christians.
I'm a buddhist, but let's see it from the christians side
God is a nice thing they say
then lets think
Why does children get raped?
Why does their parents get killed by bombs?
why do we have war?
Why are we sad?
why are the human race so evil?
if god is all nice why do we still exist?
why dont he do something?




Bad things happen as a result of "bad" people. It is your choice to kill, rape, torture, steal, etc. Don't blame that on God. He had nothing to do with it. The human race is not an "evil race" as you claim, rather a race that has some rotten minds mixed in. God created all things for his pleasure, as it is stated in Revelation (and other places I am fairly certain). We exist because he wanted us to exist. God created Satan as well, think about that. I believe he will do something. And he does do things. And he has done things. That's my 2 cents.


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