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hallucinogenic compounds in plants for self defense????
    #3434856 - 12/01/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

so you always hear this over and over but what about the fact that cactus high in mesc still contain spikes . wouldnt evolution in the sake of necessity remove one or the other?.. almost to me like it is guarding its sacred nectar .. anyone else have thoughts or know of any good research or articles in the area of why these compounds are all lock and key with our brains and also why plants create them

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Re: hallucinogenic compounds in plants for self defense???? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #3434902 - 12/01/04 10:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

it would be most amazing if such coumpounds did not exist in nature.
no real scientist could say that there is a why in any of it.
evolution is not about why's - it is about survival.
self defense is not really achieved by having entheogen, and having it is the result of cosmic accidents. (i.e. radiation mutation genetics selection and survival etc.)
just a fortunate combination of prickly bits and lovely stuff.
now that we know some of it we need to take as good care of this place as possible.

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Re: hallucinogenic compounds in plants for self defense???? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3436974 - 12/02/04 01:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

For cactii, it could just be a random biproduct, but if some deer came by and ate enough mushrooms to fill his stomach... I have a feeling he might stay away from those mushrooms in the future.

Then again, peyote are tiny little buttons in the sand, animals could easily get at them. They have a bunch of other compounds in them that are somewhat toxic though, so the mescaline could just be one of a handful of related chemicals.

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