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OfflineGomp
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- - - = + ?
    #3433923 - 12/01/04 07:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

does this work?
(- 4) - (-7) = 3

One do not have 4 bananas and take those, and subtract it from the other 7 bananas one do not have, one get 3 bananas?
where are my bananas then?


oh, there they was..  :confused:


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3433958 - 12/01/04 07:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

There's no such thing as a negative banana :wink:

But yes, that equation is correct. You could say "I owed 4 bananas, and was given 7 bananas...so now I have 3 bananas of my own and owe none".


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: trendal]
    #3433967 - 12/01/04 07:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

if one does not have a banan, coul one not say one got -1 banan? :P
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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3433981 - 12/01/04 07:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sure, if you took a banana from someone else and promptly ate it. Then you still have no banana's but now you owe one to your friend :wink:


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3434283 - 12/01/04 08:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas, today -unknown


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3434315 - 12/01/04 08:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

its seems like you are questioning the negative in itself.

in math there's something called a point of reference. this is where the negative comes into play a lot.

you can use other things too such as temperature :wink:


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: trendal]
    #3434323 - 12/01/04 08:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"There's no such thing as a negative banana."

Don't be too sure, bananas have feelings too. And some of those feelings might not be too great. Imagine the trauma the banana felt when the man cut them off with a machete, the some other guys gassed them, put them in the hold of some stinky ship, peeled them, sliced them and drowned them in milk, ATE THEM (the horror) and put them in that dark vile place. Can one blame the banana for being negative?


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3435236 - 12/02/04 12:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If I have promised to give away bananas, and I accidentally give away 4 more bananas than I had the right to give away, because maybe they were in storage somewhere, I am now negative 4 bananas.

If someone later gives me 7 bananas, I can make up the deficit, and I am left with 4 bananas.

The end.


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Frog]
    #3435712 - 12/02/04 02:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

oh man, how does -(-7) = +7? to me, that is ... well, do I infer that you'd lead me to believe the following:

(-7) - (-7) = 0

?? isn't it (-14)? my interpretation of the equation is thus:

(- 4) - (-7) = (-11)

please steer me right if you can, elsewise I will stand true to my convictions.


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3435723 - 12/02/04 02:22 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

When you have two negatives, as you do with - (-7), those two negatives equal a positive. So in actuality, it should read, "-4 + 7".

I know, weird. But I don't know why this is so. I am just remembering this based on a long-ago-taken Alegbra class.


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Frog]
    #3435792 - 12/02/04 02:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

that's weird, I can't really jam it into my head all the way. it doesn't fit. how do I shrink it to insert it into my head? hmm


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3435826 - 12/02/04 02:44 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly, I don't know how I proceeded with this whole damned thing as far as I did. Numbers make my brain freeze. Equations make it freeze faster.

Double negatives? I can't not do a double negative in English, but not in math. WTF???


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Frog]
    #3436102 - 12/02/04 06:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yes, wtf?


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3436575 - 12/02/04 11:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Double negative...

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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3436994 - 12/02/04 01:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nah, a negative banana is just a banana-shaped hole in the universe. And there's no such thing as subtracting. You can add a lot of negatives, though.


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Nomad]
    #3437052 - 12/02/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't nature always fill an empty space with something? Empty holes don't stay empty forever.

What about hyper negatives? Holes in holes in holes?


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3437182 - 12/02/04 01:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You mean a hole that is shaped like a banana-shaped hole? Where, when you drop a banana-shaped hole into the hole, it disappears?  :eek:

I once figured out that, if you want to get real nothingness, you not only have to remove the banana, but you must also remove the information that there is no banana there. You then end up with two things:

1. A place where there is neither a banana, nor no banana, and

2. Insanity. :crazy2:


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Nomad]
    #3437201 - 12/02/04 02:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Nomad]
    #3444491 - 12/04/04 03:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Nah, a negative banana is just a banana-shaped hole in the universe. And there's no such thing as subtracting. You can add a lot of negatives, though.




please explain "no such thing as subtracting".

a banana-shaped hole in the universe... like, you put it on a spectrum:

BANANA-------------NO BANANA-------------NEGATIVE BANANA


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Re: - - - = + ? [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3444525 - 12/04/04 04:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I suppsoe I always just accepted in maths that two negatives make a positive.  It is a little strange though...  maybe its this oddity that makes string theory possible :smirk:


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