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Karo to Caramel
    #3431891 - 12/01/04 10:32 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hey dear shroomers,

I think my karo is caramelizing everytime. Now even with a towel in the PC it still goes in clear and comes out with (very, like 1/20 of an inch) small chunks on the bottom.

Anyone has other suggestions to make the Karo contam free?
I read that lemon_w just poors boiling water in tje karo jar and then quickly puts the lid on... Must I do that then?


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3431895 - 12/01/04 10:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Try reducing your Pc time.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: doc34]
    #3431902 - 12/01/04 10:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Forgot to mention that it is a small 150ML jar, which I fill with 100ML water and a teaspoon of (dark!) Kornsyrup. Havent found a light version yet here.

And I put it in the PC for only 5 minutes now but still... :frown: Can it be something else then caramel?


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3431907 - 12/01/04 10:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

There is your problem = --> DARK karo!


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: doc34]
    #3431911 - 12/01/04 10:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Is it? If so, why, do you know that?

I asked about it before and the only thing about it "they" said would be that it is less clear so one cant see the difference between mycelium/contams very easy...


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3431921 - 12/01/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

From my exp.,dark karo seems to caramelize way more than clear-I don't know if it is the color or what,but I don't like it for that reason.Seems everytime I use it, it caramelizes on me.
Honey does the same also-but it works good if you don't let it caramelize.But thats another topic,lol.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3431922 - 12/01/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Try a teaspoon of DEXTROSE (corn sugar) & a teaspoon of light dry malt (you find at beer & wine brewing stores)to a quart of water. Boil slightly on stove top to disolve, strain through a double coffee filter. Then, pour half into 2 pint jars, PC 15 minutes.

Karo is made of corn sugar. Sometimes with additives.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: doc34]
    #3431940 - 12/01/04 10:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok i have some popcorns left with a bit mycelium on them Ill put them in the jars I just made, Ill see.
In the meantime will look for light syrup and dextrose&malt.

Thanks men!


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: agar]
    #3431943 - 12/01/04 10:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Agar, now hell of a job to find a brwerystore! :laugh:

We dont have the brand Karo here, I bought Cornsyrup in a eko-store. I checked the bottle, actually its Corn/Barley syrup, but no additives only barley and corn.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3431965 - 12/01/04 11:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks Agar, now hell of a job to find a brwerystore! :laugh:

We dont have the brand Karo here, I bought Cornsyrup in a eko-store. I checked the bottle, actually its Corn/Barley syrup, but no additives only barley and corn.




Sounds like that would work FINE.

Try this. Place 2 teaspoons of that, in a quart of water & simmer it on the stove (very light boil). Then strain through coffee filters & use.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: agar]
    #3432000 - 12/01/04 11:15 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Agar, making me a bit happy again! :laugh:

I think barley is used for making malt isnt it, or can any grain become malt? At least the use barley for beer! :wink:

Ok after the strain through coffeefilter I must still PC it I guess?


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3432012 - 12/01/04 11:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Always PC any liquid culture, prior to innoc.
Otherwise, you always get contam's.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: agar]
    #3432024 - 12/01/04 11:22 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nice pic agar--what strain?


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: agar]
    #3432043 - 12/01/04 11:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes sure  but... ah 4get it.. (you said use it :grin: )

The coffee filter part is to make the karo more clear?


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3432087 - 12/01/04 11:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Heating on stove first, then filtering with Coffee filter is to remove any thing that caramelizes, or solidifies into little peices, in the liquid.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: agar]
    #3432094 - 12/01/04 11:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup: thanks agarilla! :laugh:

Will def. try that!


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: agar]
    #3432114 - 12/01/04 11:53 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you can often find malts at the local health food stores (at least here in western canada in any case).

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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: theknighterrant]
    #3432267 - 12/01/04 12:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Could it be anything unhealthy?


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3432304 - 12/01/04 12:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I have dark syrup, then its normal when the karo is somewhat yellow. I read that Karowater with the real light karo syrup should be rather clear almost waterlike if you use 1tsp on 100ML.
LL OF THIS FROM READING NOT FROM OWN XPERIENCE.

And to be honest I dont know how exactly one can see if it is caramelized.
But everytime my karo jars have very very tiny dustlike parts on teh bottom, I am afraid it is caramel.


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Re: Karo to Caramel [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3433941 - 12/01/04 07:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you're using a dark syrup, the only way you will be able to tell if it is caramelized is if it is darker when it comes out. Obviously the water is going to be a yellowish color with dark syrup just by itself.

Try PCing at 10PSI for 25 minutes or something. Sugars caramelize due to temperature and length of time at that temperature.


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