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Bufo Alvarius Beginner
    #3427012 - 11/30/04 10:21 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

Hi there,
this is my first message. I am looking for a BUfo Alvarius because after many trips i decided to be focused in to this toad. But I have no idea how to have one. I read many forums about extraction of Bufotenine and 5Met-o-DMT, and now I would like to practice it....
if can any one can help me...
I am interest about the dosage for a beginner...
Thanks


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: roteusilporro]
    #3427027 - 11/30/04 10:30 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

welcome to the shroomery, porro pal!
such animals are a bit hard to find and when one finds them, they use to be fairly expensive.
unfortunately i don't know who works with them, try a search engine or browse around the vendors...
for dosages and more information i'll point you www.erowid.org as a good source.
take care, such alkaloids are active on a few milligrams dosage.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: roteusilporro]
    #3427034 - 11/30/04 10:32 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

If the main focus is for extracting drugs then i think to toad is in for a world of hurt. How about asking how to take care of it and keep it alive , happy , and healthy at that.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: jojoba]
    #3427050 - 11/30/04 10:42 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

don't be so picky JB, the newbie is just seeking the holy...


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: felixhigh]
    #3427124 - 11/30/04 11:13 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

if you're going to "seek the holy" then I would recommend that you use a healthy dose of respect. i.e. respecting the toad and its life.

make sure you get a suitable aquarium/habitat for the little guy, and do some reading... i think bouncing bear sells them as male/female pairs.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: zer0vega]
    #3427319 - 11/30/04 12:25 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

True i know what your saying FH. I just have a great love for all animals. And i have seen a good many of them die for purposes of the Holy or just to get high.
I agree zero. Respect is something well rewarded. Plus if you spend near 300$ for a pair i think your best bet would be to pamper them. IF they died you would be out the 5meo the money the beautiful toads. Im just saying know your stuff and be cautious. Much love always .


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: jojoba]
    #3427335 - 11/30/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

there are several plants which contain bufotenine, 5meo-dmt, dmt, &/or similar chemicals (& the plants won't pee on you when you pick them up...)


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: jojoba]
    #3427352 - 11/30/04 12:39 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

how ingenous of me...
now i realize your point.
yeah, he should look into breeding...


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: felixhigh]
    #3427358 - 11/30/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

how about yopo or cebil or phalaris grass? poor toads.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: felixhigh]
    #3427366 - 11/30/04 12:44 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

yeah, porro, get yourself a bunch of yopo/cebil and work your way up.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: gdman]
    #3429620 - 11/30/04 09:43 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

It's a shame, this toad has done nothing wrong, basically it's only fault is that is possess such a powerful substance. Either:

A) people kill it for a tea
B) treat it poorly just for the drug
C) actually have respect for life and treat it kindly

To the thread starter, I sincerely hope you are person C. As to your question, I am not familiar with extracting 5-MEO-DMT from the toad. I suggest looking into plants rather than the animal.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: jojoba]
    #3429993 - 11/30/04 11:17 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

jojoba said:
If the main focus is for extracting drugs then i think to toad is in for a world of hurt. How about asking how to take care of it and keep it alive , happy , and healthy at that.




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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: neuro]
    #3430147 - 11/30/04 11:42 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

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neuro said:
Quote:

jojoba said:
If the main focus is for extracting drugs then i think to toad is in for a world of hurt. How about asking how to take care of it and keep it alive , happy , and healthy at that.







:thumbup:

plants are easoer and dotn suffer from ignorance as much. 

if you are interested i hope you are successfull in properly caring for them.  much luck :smile:


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: roteusilporro]
    #3430183 - 11/30/04 11:52 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

These toads are now endangered. I doubt you'll be able to get your hands on one.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: Gumby]
    #3430962 - 12/01/04 02:55 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

How were you informed that they are endangered?

According to the U.S. fish and wildlife service's web page located here: http://endangered.fws.gov/wildlife.html

They aren't listed on the threatened or endagered species list, which is located here:
http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/TESSWebpageVipListed?code=V&listings=0#D

Toads that are endangered:
Houston Toad ( Bufo houstonensis)
Puerto Rican Crested Toad ( Peltophryne lemur)
Wyoming Toad ( Bufo baxteri (=hemiophrys))


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: Hooty]
    #3431198 - 12/01/04 03:49 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

As far as I'm away they are only under protected status in CA. where their possesion is outlawed. If you are really into toads then by all means go for it, but they need to be carefully cared for. As an entheogen source they aren't very efficient. You can only milk small amounts occasionally. As for breeding, it's extremely hard to get them to breed in captivity and really can only be done with the aid of injected hormones as I understand it.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: Maverik]
    #3431407 - 12/01/04 05:17 AM (12 years, 6 days ago)

Perhaps they are just protected. I read a long time ago that they were endangered. No clue where.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: Gumby]
    #3432363 - 12/01/04 01:07 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

I dont know about California but these toads are far from endangered. In the wild they copulate like crazy. They are very plentiful in many places. They don't need to be killed to make a tea from their skins. One can simply milk them to get what one is searching for. The goo just needs to be dried and voila! You're good to go.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: OrangeVWCamper]
    #3432381 - 12/01/04 01:10 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

I still say go with phalaris/yopo/cebil if your only seeking the the substance.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Beginner [Re: gdman]
    #3432631 - 12/01/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

I agree with gdman. Alot less hassle and you dont have to endanger an animals life.


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