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Your largest dose?
    #3426139 - 11/30/04 12:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I am sure we have all heard that you have to eat about your own body weight in mushrooms to die. I have always wondered if there was truth to this. Just curious about how much you guys have dosed off. Anyone over 20 grams dried ?

My max dose is about 8 Grams dried Cubensis, or 4 Grams dried Panelous Cyaneas. :thumbup:


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Dastoner]
    #3426355 - 11/30/04 01:13 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

there was a thread on this a while ago

after about an ounce epileptic seizures start to happen


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #3426383 - 11/30/04 01:19 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

7g cubensis here... though I had a trip off 5g that was stronger than the 7g.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: the free thinker]
    #3426407 - 11/30/04 01:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

the largest i had was 8-9 grams. though i never find it necesarry to eat more than 3-5g. i only shroom once every 2 monthes, so the 3-5g always delivers a remarkable evening. i find that meditation, mood, and setting can make a small dosage of mushrooms pretty powerful.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Dastoner]
    #3426760 - 11/30/04 04:43 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

12 dried grams.

Oh my! Very confusing, there/not there, never really there, never really real, real? Never ever? NEVER AGAIN  :thumbup:

Seriously, it was an immense carnival of sight & sound but I have had more profound trips on 1/25 this amount (you heard me: 0.5gr dried)

Like Stamets said:

"There comes a point of diminishing returns: More is not always better."

I'm sorry but the "must eat your own bodyweight of mushrooms to die" is horsie.
People with a lowered convulsive threshold are known to burst into seizures in normal doses, under and over one-eighth. Do a sitewide search.

Now all of us have a convulsive treshold, so there is a dose for all of us that is not all that high which will make you burst into seizures. If the convulsive treshold is passed far enough chemically people get into the realm of Status Epilepticus and severe Clonic Convulsions. In the former case you get seizure after seizure after seizure until you are braindamaged or die of exhaustion, and in the latter case the spasms make bones and tendons pop and muscles tear while tossing your body around like The Exorcist.
No animal is as prone to seizures as the human, but then again our nervous system is very developed.

This need not happen but the fact that some Shroomery members had to quit shrooms because of convulsions is pretty alarming.
Then it is not known what a kind of shroom exactly contains.
A bit of poison goes a long way if you slap back multiple eighths like M&Ms on a regular basis.
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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Asante]
    #3426785 - 11/30/04 04:56 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Any links about Psilocybin Mushrooms and Status Epilepticus or Clonic Convulsions?

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #3426838 - 11/30/04 05:34 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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HELLA_TIGHT said:
there was a thread on this a while ago

after about an ounce epileptic seizures start to happen




1 OZ = about 28 grams, right? I know I've eaten more than 28 grams dry shrooms in one sitting. The problem becomes ingesting that much. It's hard to get down. Best way to do it is to powder them and mix them in a drink. I don't think this info on the threshold for seizures is correct. However, if you could provide a link to back that up I could be convinced otherwise. I just know that I haven't had seizures at that level. I do get pretty immobile- muscles lock up, can't talk, etc.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Supernova]
    #3426893 - 11/30/04 06:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

11 dried grams but it was split over a period of 5 hours.

2.5 initial, 2 hours later another 3.5, 2 hours later another 5.

I just did this on Saturday. :lol:

It was amazing. :thumbup:


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Silven]
    #3426905 - 11/30/04 06:39 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Silven I bet you were up all night. When I spread out a trip like that it seems to last forever and despite what's been said elsewhere consuming those larger doses later increases the intensity. You're just better able to cope with it. JMO

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Dastoner]
    #3426914 - 11/30/04 06:56 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

6g dry cubensis or 35grams fresh copelandias.
the copes dose resulted in a death and rebirth exp.5 hours of gyrating, convulsing ego loss and extreme regression+remembrance.my girlfriend at the time babysat me and she thought i had lost my mind. the cubes dose was an attempt to reach the copes level but i puked 1hour into it so i didn't get the full fx.5 grams dry is all i can hold down and this results in a trip almost like the cope trip.it all depends on your recent drug use.if you've been doing a lot of shit it's gonna take more shit to get you where you want to go.
3.5g is my standard dose


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
    #3427434 - 11/30/04 11:12 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Lots of nice information :smile: cool  :thumbup:


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Dastoner]
    #3427602 - 11/30/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

my biggest dose is somewhere between 7 and 10 grams dried PRIME cubensis (to this day i truly dont know the exact dosage, you can prolly take a guess why). it was THE MOST terrifying experience of my life. im not talking i was "afraid" or "freaked out," im talking my entire being was gripped by unavoidable PRIMAL, INSTINCTUAL, and PHYSIOLOGICAL FEAR. fear at its basest, most intense, and PUREST form. ive had guns pointed at me in anger, been in high speed car crashes, fallen from high places onto hard ground, NONE of these things frightened me to even a fraction of what i felt on that trip. i hesitate to even call it a trip, it was an explosion of everything primal and horrible inside my psyche, it was a voyage to my own perception of hell, even though i dont believe in any traditional concept of god or religion. the ONLY things i knew were fear, confusion, sadness, actual physical pain, discomfort, and despair. hope was gone, suicide was meaningless, i had "broken the world" by eating too many mushrooms. i did not know i had eaten mushrooms for most of the time, i was simply in a hellish post-apocalyptic alternate reality designed for the soul purpose of containing my tortured psyche and soul for all of eternity. "time dilation" is only a fucking word, i was there for all of eternity, since the beginning of time and till the end of it. my "real" life (family, friends, happiness) were DISTANT memories that were completely irrelevant and brought me LITTLE if any comfort. there were only "visuals" for the first 15 minutes (after which i promptly lost my ego for a good 30 minutes), after that the entire world was replaced by a single hallucination. peoples eyes were ALL black and curved back into their head demonically. they talked in "tongues" with forked snake tongues. i heard demonic sounding whispering throughout the experience. the laws of physics did not apply, people walked on ceilings, sideways out doors on the walls. i fell to the ground but it did not stop me, i fell into a black void and flailed through the abyss until i fell apart into nothingness. i reassembled at random places and times, memories throughout my life, memories that i can only assume were other peoples. i lived every life of every person thats ever existed, i felt every single being in the universe. there were parts that were beautiful, but the overall experience was my very being put through a meat grinder, then vaporized and blasted over the entire plane of existence that is this universe. 8 hours after ingesting the blue guys (in our human time scale) i lay on my bed and watched my clock (which i had been unable to read for the duration) "dial" back into numbers that i could somewhat read/understand. i called a friend out of the blue, and made enough of a connection to what we call reality to pull myself out of the mind loop i had been on for atleast the last 2 hours (which had been all of eternity) and realize that i was going to be okay. i sat there, in complete awe and utter disbelief that i was alive. i knew i had just been through something that my had pushed my brain to its limit, i had been to place few ever see or come away from with an intact sanity. i sat up from my bed, walked across the room, and picked up a sharpie marker. i walked to my door, drew a huge mushroom on it, feeling power, fear, and ultimately RESPECT surge through me as i did it. then, i wrote the words "RESPECT THE FUNGUS OR IT WILL MAKE YOU WISH YOU WERE NEVER BORN" and walked out of the room into the open arms of the new day, the sun shining through the windows. i was ALIVE and i was READY


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Lysergic_1968]
    #3427759 - 11/30/04 12:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

where is supernova for this thread? he owns all of us..

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Dastoner]
    #3427900 - 11/30/04 01:29 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

25-30 dried grams of mexicans. It's very much like the 10-15 dried gram range except a little rougher physically for the first hour or two. The brain only has so many receptors - once you're past that level the rest just floats around your blood system until it's excreted. Perhaps the larger doses last a little longer but I've never found them anymore intense.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Hendostan]
    #3427943 - 11/30/04 01:40 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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where is supernova for this thread? he owns all of us..




Aint that the truth.

My max was 80g fresh, had to eat em fresh to stomach that much.  :grin:


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Asante]
    #3428635 - 11/30/04 04:11 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Where did you find this info about mushroom convulsions at? I've been researching psilocybe mushrooms for quite some time and I have never come across anything that linked mushrooms to any type of epileptic fit.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Hendostan]
    #3428940 - 11/30/04 05:04 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I have no idea what my largest dose has been. I've sat down and ate shrooms until I couldn't eat them anymore because either I was too full of the ones I'd eaten or simply because my mind wouldn't allow me to continue eating without barfing. That's why I think consuming large amounts requires making tea. Until my 420gram cube dose a few weeks ago, I'd never weighed a dose out. That may be my biggest, but I can't say for sure.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Supernova]
    #3429144 - 11/30/04 05:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

420/28=15 You almost ate a pound of shrooms. That would last me months. In that thread about oding on shrooms, I think if you don't get a seizure they said 4-7 pounds. Don't remember if that is fresh or not.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3429154 - 11/30/04 05:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Use the search function :smile: There are quite some reports of people getting seizures from regular doses of mushrooms all over the shroomery. The Shroomery is about the best source of user info in the world. :thumbup:

But let me quote the scientific literature on LSD:

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Many clinical observations suggest that special caution is indicated in persopns who have an epileptic disposition, especially those with a history of Grand Mal seizures. In these individuals LSD can occasionally trigger not only individual attacks but entire chains of seizures following each other in rapid sequence. This so-called Status Epilepticus can be very difficult to control. (medically)

Source: "LSD PSYCHOTHERAPY" by Stanislav Grof MD
Hunter House 1980; reprinted 1994





Note that this deals with measured doses of pure Sandoz LSD. People tend to discover they tend to the epileptic side of the spectrum by having a seizure. Looking at the possibility of bringing about Status Epilepticus psychedelics must be regarded strong triggers for seizures in some ands therefore are likely to bring about the first seizure episode.


Supernova made a tea of about 1lb of fresh mushrooms but at the hight of his trip he was able to walk about the house. That's completely different from a typical response to even 100 grams fresh.

The mentioned "muscles locking up" looks like something approaching the realm of convulsions and seizures.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Asante]
    #3429389 - 11/30/04 06:34 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder how often that is though, after reading Chinacat's experiences and his observations of other's experiences with thumbprint doses of LSD, which, if any hallucinogenic dose will cause seizures, that will. I don't remember him making any mention of anybody getting seizures, even at that many sheets of acid?

But since it is a possibility, one should always use moderation to move up dosage wise, just in case they are susceptable to seizures, but I don't think they're that common, as out of all the hallucinogenic users I've talked to in real life none of them have mentioned or known anyone who had had seizures from hallucinogens


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Ravus]
    #3429403 - 11/30/04 06:38 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

7 dried grams kicked my ass pretty good

and by pretty good i mean very very hard


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Dastoner]
    #3430094 - 11/30/04 09:34 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

a tad under 30 wet grams, which was TONS more potent than the 3.5 dry gram dose i've previously had.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: TODAY]
    #3430458 - 11/30/04 10:56 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i did 17 dry one time....but they were bunk
2 of us ate 5 grms
then like 2 hours later barley anything(shroomy but not forceful at all)
so we ate 3 more
and an hour later still barley even as high as smoking a lot of pot
so the bag had 34 to start
we put the rest in the blender with oj and drank it back
ive gotten higher off of 2 grams b4 though

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Luv_The_Cyans]
    #3430496 - 11/30/04 11:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

"i did 17 dry one time....but they were bunk"

lol.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Asante]
    #3430824 - 12/01/04 12:19 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

There are quite some reports of people getting seizures from regular doses of mushrooms all over the shroomery

But how many were genuine physical seizures and how many were just psychosomatic? It's hard to see psilocybin having such a devastating physical effect as it comes 400 places lower in the toxicity list than aspirin.

Psychosomatic illnesses are characterized by symptoms for which no physical cause can be found. People with these disorders are not faking symptoms. They truly believe that they are caused by serious illness.

In conversion disorder, which used to be called hysteria, emotional conflict and extreme stress are unconsciously converted into physical symptoms. Symptoms usually appear as the loss of a physical function. They may include paralysis, seizures, false pregnancy, blindness or the inability to walk or speak. Episodes are usually of sudden onset, brief and may recur. Characteristically, people with conversion disorder do not seem to be appropriately alarmed by their severe symptoms. Conversion disorders usually occur in adolescence or early adulthood. Symptoms may help the person avoid dealing with an internal conflict, avoid a disliked activity or get support from others that he or she might not otherwise receive. They usually disappear when the situation that caused it improves.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Asante]
    #3430965 - 12/01/04 12:56 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I think that it's logic that special caution is indicated in persons who have an epileptic disposition, especially those with a history of Grand Mal seizures. Epileptic people have a higher risk when the play computer games, but a 'normal' person has no risk of getting a seizure from playing a computer game.

I don't think there is any reason to suggest that special caution is needed for persons who have never had an epileptic disposition. Ravus made a good point too; Chinacat told about enormous doses of LSD. I've never heard him about seizures. At least not about life threatening seizures or seizures with brain damage.

I'm looking for a source that shows that non epileptic people can get a Status Epilepticus or Clonic Convulsion from mushrooms.

There's a great difference between muscle contractions and a Status Epilepticus.

Alex123, you make a very good point.

Psychosomatic seizures, also called non-epileptic attacks, resemble the tonic / clonic phases of seizures, but do not actually have the same characteristic changes in brain activity. "People under severe stress will have something that looks like a seizure without demonstrative brain involvement," Azar says. There are four types of non-epileptic attacks, according to the National Society for Epilepsy. Symptoms of panic attacks may include breathing difficulties, palpitations and loss of consciousness. Cut-off or avoidance attacks occur when a person is unable to cope with the emotional stressors or demands of a situation. Abreactive attacks occur as a delayed response to stress, often in conjunction with a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress syndrome. Symptoms may include screaming, crying and flashbacks. Manipulative attacks are used as an attempt to control somebody or something. Possible causes of non-epileptic attacks may include a family history of psychiatric disorders, depression, bereavement or a personal history of physical, emotional or sexual abuse. Epileptic medications are not effective in treating non-epileptic attacks, but treatment with cognitive behavioral therapy is beneficial.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Annom]
    #3433287 - 12/01/04 02:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

My highest dose was 11 dry grams. I hated it. I was freaking out the first 2 hours, thinking I had "overdosed". I tried eating food to kill the trip, but everything I tried to eat was morphing and bubblying before my eyes. When I tasted the food it was just gross. I puked up what remained of the mushroom matter, mbut I was still tripping for the remainder of the evening. Horrible experience. I never dose more than 3 grams now

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: candykid420]
    #3436113 - 12/02/04 04:49 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

10g dried 31st January this year - spread out over the course an hour.

As it really kicked in I just kept repeating "everything is love is everything is love is everything is love....." over and over again.

At the peak I became a particle of interwoven light beams flying through space towards a giant jellyfish-like structure in space.

On the way down I was told (! by what/who I have no idea) to breathe in sorrow and breathe out love....

My 'reward' was to be bathed in love (like being bathed in light but emotionally) for an eternity.

Had hardly any qualms or worries - but I did smoke one hell of a lot of hash all the way through.

Wouldn't recommend it though - the psychological aspect of this trip was me coming to terms with certain self-destructive elements that were in my character (they've got smaller on the horizon as the year's gone by - thanks to 12 carefully planned trips!) and letting go into experience wasn't a problem for me.

I tend to stick to 5g if I'm tripping with my wife or 2g if I'm doing a solo.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #3436229 - 12/02/04 06:07 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

theorganicdomino wrote:
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At the peak I became a particle of interwoven light beams flying through space towards a giant jellyfish-like structure in space.




Dude, so that was you I was watching at my peak..  I couldn't see anything but pulsating patterns, well that and I didn't want to open my eyes. :smile:

Nova, how hard was it for you to handle that 420 fresh gram dose?

I didn't hit where I wanted last Saturday, but still had fun.  I'm going to wait a month, pick a perfect day, and eating until I'm full or something.

I can't reach where LSD can take me.  Is it possible on shrooms to feel the power that a 400 ug LSD trip has?  Because I can't seem to do it.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Silven]
    #3436347 - 12/02/04 07:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

"Nova, how hard was it for you to handle that 420 fresh gram dose?"

Once you give yourself over to it, it isn't that hard at all. There was a time when there would have been no way that I could have managed that. I think now that I understand that shrooms can help you and aren't going to hurt you, I can handle it. You have to let go of your fears and inhibitions though, otherwise you're in for a scary fucking trip.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Supernova]
    #3436472 - 12/02/04 08:51 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

General question:
Is there any great difference between 5g and 10g(dried)?

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Annom]
    #3436655 - 12/02/04 09:51 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

There's a point where bigger doses have no effect other than a physical one. The brain only has so many receptors. If you take 30 dried grams your trip isn't going to be massively more intense than 5-10 dried grams. What the maximum dose is to fill up your brain receptors no-one knows but I'd guess somewhere in the 10-15 dried gram range.

The problem with big doses of mushrooms is you know you've taken a big dose so some people will sit there shitting themselves thinking "I've taken a bigger dose, I'm going to trip harder" and sure enough they trip harder through the placebo effect.

Leary used to give people blind doses of LSD and tell them it was 250mikes - he found he could give them enormous doses without them knowing any different providing he told them it was 250 mikes.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Xlea321]
    #3436718 - 12/02/04 10:05 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I've had a definite different reaction to 30 dry grams than 10 dry grams. It may have to do with other chemicals in the shrooms rather than psilocybin. My muscles lock up quite a bit more. The hallucinations are certainly much more intense. I don't know at what point you max out the receptors, but I'm sure there is a point where that is true. I'm just not sure I've reached it. I do agree that with larger doses you don't get a lot more out of it though. The trip does last longer IMO.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Xlea321]
    #3436737 - 12/02/04 10:13 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for your answer!

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Leary used to give people blind doses of LSD and tell them it was 250mikes - he found he could give them enormous doses without them knowing any different providing he told them it was 250 mikes.




:laugh: I would love to see more research being done on psychedelics and their effects on people. Will people distinguish between high and low doses or between LSD and mushrooms, or other drugs? I love to see that many things are all in the head, wishfull thinking, placebo, etc.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Supernova]
    #3440587 - 12/03/04 12:01 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I've had a definite different reaction to 30 dry grams than 10 dry grams

Me too - but it's generally just slightly rougher physically for the first couple of hours. After that it settles down to an ordinary trip. I don't get hallucinations on mushrooms whatever the dose, colours appear slightly brighter and the world appears more "otherwordly" but I don't see things that arn't there.

I don't know at what point you max out the receptors, but I'm sure there is a point where that is true.

Leary found no-one could distuingish an LSD dose after 250-500mikes. I'm not sure what dose of psilocybin would be comparable but I don't think 250 mikes translates into too high a dose of psilocybin.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Annom]
    #3440590 - 12/03/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I would love to see more research being done on psychedelics

We live in hope  :laugh:


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Xlea321]
    #3440744 - 12/03/04 12:55 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

8 grams of some cubes. but they were shity. had harder off of 3. someone must have dried them way to hot.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: theduck]
    #3440795 - 12/03/04 01:11 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

7gramz ground up into powder (some was sliced and put in my mouth like chew right before drink and i sucked out psilly as i drank shake)ice crushed and put in blender with strawberry daiquiri mix. I was trippin hard in 15 minutes flat!


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Xlea321]
    #3441087 - 12/03/04 06:14 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
I would love to see more research being done on psychedelics

We live in hope  :laugh:




ME ME ME!!!! I volunteer for this research!  :grin: :crazy2: :grin:

All this talk about LSD dosing makes me wish for some.  It's been years since I dosed on acid.

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: Supernova]
    #3442763 - 12/03/04 03:28 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i did 60g fresh cubes with 1-2g syrian rue put into tea
too intense on the comedown, wasnt ready for it, but at some point i will return to such a dose
overall not a bad experience, but at the time it was seriously fucked

clearly mind set can alter a doses effects, but i will say that there are surely doses that give a considerably stronger trip than 60g wet

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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: holio1]
    #3444360 - 12/04/04 12:31 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

my personal max is 7.5 grams dry. Today, I read the trip report of a guy who ate 40 grams in the desert. You can read that here: http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mus05.htm , I really suggest you check this out.


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Re: Your largest dose? [Re: twilight715]
    #3453527 - 12/06/04 05:55 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I had 15 dry grams in capsules taken over the course of about 20 mins. I've also had large fresh doses, but I've found that different simply because it takes so long to eat them.

I don't think the muscle lock has anything to do with siezures, it's more like your brain mixes up where to send the contraction message (or forget the message altogether.) It's like trying to move your biceps and having a good chance of some other muscle contracting instead or in addition to your biceps. Like an extreme of the uncordination you've probably experience at lower doses.


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