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psylocibin boletus.....anyone???
    #342514 - 06/17/01 12:02 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

A friend of mine told me that exist some species of boletus that are allucinogen....
i never heard something like this before, but, you know the kingdom of fungi is strange.....
the species are:
Boletus Manicus
Boletus Reayi
Boletus Nigerrimus

any info on those...

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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: CLuB99]
    #342701 - 06/17/01 10:37 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

There are a few mushroom species that do bruise blue but they are not all magic.

I have never heard of any Boletes that'll get you high.

By the way, specie names are always spelt with the First name (Genus) capatilized. The second name (specie) is always small case. If you want to really impress your friends, specie names should always be in italics.



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    #342714 - 06/17/01 10:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i know this....Boletus satana is one of those......
but those boletus are allucinogenic, at least my friend told me this....

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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: CLuB99]
    #342883 - 06/17/01 05:23 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

No club 99, they are psychoactive but they are not hallucinogenic and you would have to go deep into the interior of the Western Highlands in New Guinea amongs the aboriginal peoples to find them and do them.

A word of warning, There are still many tribes in New Guinea which practive cannabilism so good luck. There are also two species of Heimella with similar properties. Active ingredients are suspected to be stearic acids.

There are some papers by both Roger Heim and R. Gordon Wsson on those mushrooms, And do not forget the 6 species of Rusulla which are also used by the same native peoples, including the Nonda's and the Kumas of New Guinea.

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Go For it. They are waiting for your arrival.

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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #342936 - 06/17/01 06:57 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

hehehe...i think i'll pass :wink:
i was just curious, and btw i don't wanna  be the main dish of some aborigen
thanks anyway MJ, you never cease to amaze me......


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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #342955 - 06/17/01 07:34 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Entheogenic Boletes and Russulas? What the hell?
If there's so much paranoia about the Cannibals, then who had the balls to spend the time gathering mushrooms? Especially if they're only found in that area, no one would've known until the first person took the chance, not knowing even the foggiest if any "active" species were there. This is really disturbing.
Also, please expand on Stearic Acids.
Do you have any pics of any Heimella family? I'd like to know something about that.
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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: CLuB99]
    #342983 - 06/17/01 08:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

HEy Club99,
I was only joking. There are cannibals in New Guinea but in the deep interior. The Kuma are in the WEstern Highlands. AS for information about them there is a lot in theliterature in journals at your local university library on the subject.

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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #343230 - 06/18/01 02:35 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I'm interested in these boletes now..

MJ,
whats the intoxication like? is it more of a drunken state or kind of delirious like datura? have you ever done it?



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Re: psylocibin boletus.....anyone??? [Re: Strange Days]
    #343449 - 06/18/01 10:31 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

You should check out the article by Wasson in your local University Library. You do not have to be a student to go into the library and browse the shelves. Article By Heim and Wasson, 1965 can be seen in the journal The Harvard botanical Museum Leaflet vol. 21(1):1-36. 1965 THe Mushrom MAdness of the Kuma.

Also Rolf Singer wrote a paper in 1958 in the journal Mycopathologia et Mycologia Applicata vol 9(4):275-279.
This one by Singer is about one of the species of Russula used in New Guinea.

Here are some names to look up for information on these mushshrooms used byt he Kuma Indians of New Guinea.

De Rios, 1976, 1984; Heim, 1963, 1965, 1972; Heim and Wasson, 1965; Nelson, 1976; Reay, 1959, 1960; Singer, 1958; Stijve, 1997.

Remember these particular species of Boletes, Heimella's and Russula;s are only indigenous to New Guinea, as are P. baeocystis and P. stuntzii are only indigenous to the PNW, etc.

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Edited by mjshroomer on 06/18/01 10:39 AM.



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