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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Damn Hippies
    #3422447 - 11/29/04 11:15 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

After talking with many of you I now understand what the 1960's were all about.

What a bunch of traitors.

Instead of getting people that agree with you elected. You get stoned and complain.

I guess maybe I don't belong in here.

You know what a real American is ?

A voter, a doer.

Not a stoned out complainer who lives in a dream world.


This may piss many of you off

So what :mad2:

You may continue as you have for the past 40 years getting nothing done and staying stoned.

I don't just complain about the homeless or poor hungry people in this country. Amoung the many things to complain about

I DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Yeah I get high but I started a homeless shelter. I ran for Mayor and lost. I vote for people who stand for what I believe in.

I DO SOMETHING and love my country. I try to make a change and have.


What are you doing?

Complaining and making plans to gather in the desert and get STONED

Fucking bullshit and gets us nowhere

Do you have any idea what can be done with the effort it takes to set up a gathering?

I didn't think I would be feeling the things I do But, I do.

If you don't like the way things are then GET UP OF YOUR STONED ASS's and do something


Why don't I see threads organizing anything? Where are the threads that talk about DOING SOMETHING to change the world?

Where are the people that go into the ugly streets and pull for what they believe?

Where are the law makers?

Where are the voters?

Where are the young people helping the poor?

Why are not a bunch of you going to South Africa and feeding them?

Where are the hippies from 1967 ?
I don't see them in the White house?


You know why?  No not because they world is run by criminals and cheaters. but because instead of doing something.

Stoners stay stoned. I have proven that a stoner can make change.

What have you done?

Until you do something you are nothing but a zit on the ass of the world

If just 30% of you would take some serious actions something would happen. No and I am not talking about Civil war :rolleyes:


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3422455 - 11/29/04 11:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

dude, ur hella deep.


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: afoaf]
    #3422457 - 11/29/04 11:21 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
dude, ur hella deep.




Maybe but I go with God's direction


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3422624 - 11/29/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


"...history shows us that systems that are man made that also deviate too far from the path that nature provides for us are often corrected through major events that are equal to the extent of our deviations."

some guy said that.^


think it's true?


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: ricyjo]
    #3422642 - 11/29/04 12:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think that you have confused a very simple thing

Mankind has taken the path that was meant to be taken.

Do you really think that by dreaming of a "Live of the land" life style will change anything?

Wrong

The world we live in is exactly what could have been predicted.

The world we live in is what we have to deal with.

Wake up and smell the shit.

Wipe your ass and wipe the guys ass down the street and pull toghter and put the right people in office. Make a real difference. Become greater than those around you. Make a difference

Saying or quoting something does nothing

Do something


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3422683 - 11/29/04 12:58 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Man, are you quoting "the big book of clich?d truistic statements" or something?

You're entirely ignoring;

i) the right of the privileged to have a greater impact than those who aren't privileged (e.g presidents tend to be rich and have friends in high places)

ii) the persecution and exclusion of those in the minority (e.g preventing black voters from voting, providing second rate voting mechanisms in deprived areas) preventing them from being involved in politics in the way you advocate.

iii) You assume that posting on an internet forum and actually doing things to support your political ideology are mutually exclusive. Engaging in intellectual debates with those of different views to me on the internet doesn't prevent me being politically active in other ways.

iv) You assume that those on the political left are stoners. I'm not a stoner. I don't smoke weed. The gatherings arranged on this website are not functions of any certain political ideology, but of the fact that this is a drugs website . On the other hand, I have often requested the help of people on this forum in political affairs, e.g. Free Tibet or Save Tenzin Delek Rinpoche


Just because right wingers are in the white house doesn't mean that they are any more dynamic or proactive than left wingers.

You assume too much.


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: OJK]
    #3422719 - 11/29/04 01:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I know that there a millions of people who use drugs.

I also know that 10% or less vote

I know that if 20 million people stick toghter and vote the right people into office.

things will change dispite how things have been done.

The power of the people has never been seen in this country.

You are correct it is the power of the rich and there infuance.

But the point I am making is that all there bullshit will mean nothing against 20 million voters who do not agree with the 2 party system.

The only way to make real change is to vote change.

It will take every no voter to vote. Which will never happen if all the efforts are used up in going to the desert and partying.

Do you understand?

I very much understand how thing work. Much more than you give me credit.

I also understand what will make things different.

20 million people

Me 1
You 2
Them 19,999,998


Get it?

Time to stop talking and time to make a very real effort. Not some yearly march on Washington but a daily effort.

If everyone here made themselves heard they would reach 10 people and tehy would reach 10 people.

Then you would have the 70% of the no voters makeing a difference.

Bush and Kerry think they have the peoples vote. No they have purchased votes

It will be people like ourselves that will topple the Man

Buy voting and daily efforts


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: OJK]
    #3422782 - 11/29/04 01:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


) the right of the privileged to have a greater impact than those who aren't privileged (e.g presidents tend to be rich and have friends in high places)

Clinton was born to a single mother who didn't have much money. Nixon was born to a family that ran a small store.


ii) the persecution and exclusion of those in the minority (e.g preventing black voters from voting, providing second rate voting mechanisms in deprived areas)

Black people always bitch about "oppression this" and "racism that". Yet they have more rights in this country(affirmative action granting them access to job and school spots over white people) than white people have.

Nobody was "denied" the right to vote. They just had to wait while Republican party douche bags asked a few questions. So what?


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3422819 - 11/29/04 01:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You seem to be in ignorance of the fact that - they (the elite) are who decides who will be the 'oposing' frontmen in an election - the last two elections were completely fraudulent - your vote does not count. You can blame it on the 'hippies' all you want, but by doing so you are only further enforcing your position as being a pawn playing their game as they are expecting you to do. It is theatre. I hate to break it to you but the American pride that used to be expressed by Bruce Springsteen and the Beach Boys in the past may have been created with true spirit at the time, but to try and integrate and maintain that same spirit at present, atleast in my view, is impossible without being completely naive of the fact that the country is currently headed downhill on a one way road to hell.


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3422821 - 11/29/04 01:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The Left in America is so loony at times. They also tend to be very disorganized. The Left basically will take anybody who is not in the "mainstream", which means that that area of the ideological spectrum is a freaky amalgamation of fringe type people. The 1960's was the only time they got their act together as far as being an organized national force.

When it comes to national politics, the U.S. seems to be firmly against the extreme Left. However, in some local areas and in the media(which definately has a big impact), the Left seems to have a lot more power than the Right(hence the rise of political correctness as an accepted way to think and act). It's weird...there does seem to be a split in this country. Some people are so deadset against the Left and some are so deadset against the Right. The whole affair ends up being a protracted(and boring) cultural fight between differing viewpoints. I like to sit on the sidelines and make fun of both sides.


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3423075 - 11/29/04 03:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Instead of getting people that agree with you elected. You get stoned and complain.




1) Hate to be the one that has to break it to you, but in case you missed the name of the site, it IS a drug related website.

2) Many of the 'hippies' that you refer to, don't live in the U.S., therefore don't have the option to vote...so the only thing many can do is try to inform Americans what is going on, since so many seem to be in denial or just refuse to accept it.


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Rono]
    #3423118 - 11/29/04 03:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I am aware of the fact this is a drug related site.:rolleyes:

Dumb observation to think I missed that?

But at this same Drug site, there is a forum that talks about Political ideals and reforms.

The left the right.....what ever.

So................What would be the point of talking and doing nothing?

It is possible to be a functioning druggie you know :cool:

I think you have cut the throats of the people here. I read a lot of very good and powerful points.

But I see no action, just talk.

That may be OK and will probably be all that comes from this site. But I think that with so many voices.

Something can happen :thumbup:


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3423138 - 11/29/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

But I see no action, just talk.

That may be OK and will probably be all that comes from this site.




Unless you personally know what each individual here does on their free time, that's a pretty big assumption...personally, I feel that the sharing of ideas and beliefs is the best way to make a change. It sure beats rushing headfirst into action without knowing both sides of the issue...I've learned alot from many of the posters here that I don't necessarily share political beliefs with, and I would hope that it goes both ways.


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Invisibleadrug

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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3423167 - 11/29/04 03:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

People who make blanket judgements about the community apparently haven't been around long enough to notice the diversity in viewpoints around here. We're all over the spectrum, and to simply start lashing out and calling everyone stupid stoners is ridiculous. You should stop and think about how you just may be preaching to the choir in this instance.


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: adrug]
    #3423192 - 11/29/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think maybe a few of you have taken this far to personally.

I am speaking about the stoner community as a whole over 40 years.

And I have been around this site long enough to see that actions that this site as a whole have taken. You also assume that I have only been around since I made FUCKNUCKLE. Remember that 90% of this stuff can bee read without ever signing on. I have been reading the posts here for years.

I am suggesting that some type of action plan be started by the shroomery. Maybe get more active in change.

While I agree that sharing knowledge is a very powerful tool.

I sometimes think that it is not enough.

If any of you are taking this thread personally

Then you have a problem you should address.


Moving on...........
Raw talk can sometimes be the spark of something great.

I am thinking to myself the past few days that the shroomery could be a place of real change beyond the walls of cyber space.

It may be I am having a pipe dream

But all great things started from a great dream.

And the fact that your calling me a Hypocrite is silly.


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3423199 - 11/29/04 03:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

I am thinking to myself the past few days that the shroomery could be a place of real change beyond the walls of cyber space.


Other than urging people to vote, I see very little else that can be done by the Shroomery as a whole....although I welcome any suggestions you may have.


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Rono]
    #3423242 - 11/29/04 04:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I have been thinking about it a lot really.

While I could spew now. I would like to put my creative juices to work and give a presentation of my ideas in a few days

The fact that the site is expanding into Radio does open a few doors. The fact that we gather frequently opens a few doors as well.

I really think the power of all of our voices is far underestimated.


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: OJK]
    #3423267 - 11/29/04 04:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

dude, will you please stop being a lazy STONER?


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3423268 - 11/29/04 04:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Did you miss the Revolution forum? Oh how great that was going to be, The Shroomery was going to change the world...and then everyone forgot about it and went back to posting scat.


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Re: Damn Hippies [Re: adrug]
    #3423295 - 11/29/04 04:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I guess maybe I missed that. Link please?

I am feeling very motivated the past few days.

I sold my shop a couple weeks back and I am in need of a new challenge.

So it is possible I am venting my need to move forward.


I have this constant need to be making something happen.

And right now all I have going on is a Poker problem that is costing me money. LOL


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