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A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one?
    #3416715 - 11/27/04 07:10 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Hello Dear Gardeners...

My question is simple...I have a San Pedro that during summertime it started pupping.My san pedro is six ribbed and it has produced one six ribbed cactus and one five ribbed...

Anyone know what is that? I dont know ,maybe its rare,maybe its quite common ,maybe i did something and induce such a growth...any ideas?


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3416780 - 11/27/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

no i think its quite common, pedros can have like 4-6 ribs depending on something (dont know what though)


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3416847 - 11/27/04 07:39 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

I've had several san pedros do this. It's just chance.

I've also seen cactii lose or gain a rib mid stalk.


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3416856 - 11/27/04 07:41 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Pedro can have more than 6 ribs, the 7 ribbed pedro was prized by the natives who harvested it and would be more desirable than the others.


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: faslimy]
    #3416919 - 11/27/04 07:57 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Thanks for the answers my friends!

I find many lifeforms of this planet so interesting and the only way one can appreciate their true beauty is to observe them...Be it a five star going into a six star pedro,be it changing mid stalk its amazing ,dont you think?


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3417680 - 11/27/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

It seems the more healthy they are the more ribs they have. You can have the rib count change allong a log going up or down depending on there environment. I had mine go down one when i brought it in and put it under floros.


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3417734 - 11/28/04 12:15 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

sure is possible...
but i was going to say, you have a slight chance of having a trichocereus scopulicola and not a pachanoid (they're more prone to giving 5 (or 4!) ribbed pups)...
are its areoles rather close or pachanoid spaced?


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3418488 - 11/28/04 05:37 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Here's my thoughts:

omg uv radiation + cacti cells = DNA mutation= -1 rib

Awesome, eh?


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: faslimy]
    #3418551 - 11/28/04 06:33 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

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faslimy said:
Pedro can have more than 6 ribs, the 7 ribbed pedro was prized by the natives who harvested it and would be more desirable than the others.




I gotta take some photos of my specimen pedro i was telling you about. It's 7 ribbed ^_^ hooray!


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: felixhigh]
    #3418826 - 11/28/04 10:25 AM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Felixhigh got me thinking and researching..I picked up my cactus from a cactus nursery and i was quite sure that it is a pachanoi...Now i thought it could be mislabelled as well...

I researched the net and found pictures of both Pachanoi and Scopulicola and checked the areoles.My cacti's areoles have a distance of a liltle less that 2 fingers it doesnt look as dense as Scopulicola but there is always that safety margin one must keep due to human error...I wish i had a camera now so i could post some pictures of it for all to see...

The aerole distance is about 3 cm average but not exceeding it but near the base when it was young and the ribs were not so pronounced the aeroles are denser.The distance i report is the one from the nively developed parts of my cacti..

I was also amazed to find that scopulicola has alkaloids found also in pachanoi! I would like to experiment with crossbreeding related species so to get nice hybrids!


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3419863 - 11/28/04 06:49 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Skin tecture is the easiest way to find out. Pachanoi has smooth skin like lyno (sp?) when you rub it with your fingernail, scopulicola has a more rough sharks skin type texture


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3420042 - 11/28/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

good research psiloman!
it seems to be a pedro, by the areole spacing you say.
also, the scops frequently have more noticeable v notches...
i'm not sure if most people notice, in every pachanoi collection there often is one or a few scops around (look at Maverik's cacti post, that other post with cacti on the ground behind a fence can't remember the owner)...
it is said that the Juul's Giant hybrid is scop X peruvianus...


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: felixhigh]
    #3426902 - 11/30/04 08:37 AM (12 years, 13 days ago)

Hmmm on skin texture....It feels like lyno (linen i guess it is called) which i have touched...DOesnt feel like a shark.One though could argue that i have never touched a shark and i can only hypothesize on how its skin feels by looking at it!

Felixhigh: Yes i have seen those V notches many times in cacti reputed to be san pedro.Its the depressed space on the aerole ,right? Some of them are pretty heavy V notched let me say....My cacti are completely devoid of V notches ,so i guess this reinforces the original ideas that they are Pedros.....

Hybridisation is very interesting! Let me add a though of mine! Here in Greece a plant called Colhicus Autamnalea (propably i just killed the spelling!!!!) grows abudantly.It is very rich in colhicine (es,i am familiar with the dangers ,handle with gloves,it is a mitotic poison,disinfect quickly any spill!!!!) and i am thinking of trying some crude extracts of this plant on my cactus.An idea woyld be to injure the top (where ribs grow from) slightly with a needle and put a drop of my colhicine crude extract...Propably new growth from the tip will be mutated,i can then transfer it to a tissue culture and see what happens...


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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3432457 - 12/01/04 01:35 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

Heres a four ribber (pedro) from erowid



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Re: A sixed ribed Pedro giving a five ribed one? [Re: rockstafarian]
    #3432624 - 12/01/04 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 days ago)

My girlfriend has a 7ribbed one. Halfway up (actually closer to the top) 2 of the ribs just sort of stopped. Its now a 5 ripped pedro :smile:


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